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by jjgurley
Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:45 pm
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

SOLVED Re: 450C float question

My detent was missing the "jaws" that grab the rim of the plunger. My mechanic had found the jaws and assumed they were a broken washer - he threw them away. The "jaws" are basically a bronze o-ring that is split into quarters. It sits between two thick washers with surfaces to force the jaws toward...
by jjgurley
Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:47 am
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

Re: 450C float question

Upon recollection, I think my float did work properly before I had a bunch of work done (clutches, brakes, sprockets etc.) The mechanic mentioned that the 6-way valve "feel apart" claiming that it was the rear piston cover, dumping a bunch of parts into the housing. He showed me a pile of washers an...
by jjgurley
Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:17 pm
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

Re: 450C float question

I found a diagram on a 350C plunger, and as expected, there are a few more parts that are missing from mine.
by jjgurley
Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:33 pm
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

Re: 450C float question

I've got the thing out, and I can't figure out how the detent is supposed to work. My "detent" (#27) is actually a bunch of parts, including a body, a hex driven adjuster, a stack of four plastic (teflon or some similar material) washers, a metal shim, and a thick steel washer. When disassembled, th...
by jjgurley
Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:20 am
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

Re: 450C float question

My lever is definitely pushing the piston all the way down, so I guess my linkage isn't that bad. I'm surprised at how stiff the spring is on the piston - I can't really push it without the leverage of the linkage. So either the detent is disabled/worn out or the spring is stiffer than stock. I'll h...
by jjgurley
Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:54 pm
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

Re: 450C float question

After studying the manuals as little harder, it looks like the "latch" function occurs within the spool valve. The forward valve is unlike the other two in that it as a "detent" mechanism at it's bottom. Not sure how it works, but I guess it gives me a place to look. The discussion of sloppy linkage...
by jjgurley
Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:34 pm
Forum: Late model JD crawler technical support
Topic: 450C float question
Replies: 10
Views: 6706

450C float question

I read the two old posts on the subject, and i'm still unclear on the way float works. On my '81 450c, float works if you hold the lever forward but it won't hold itself in float. It appears it "should" (like my 580E backhoe), but it hasn't for the 25 years I've owned it. My question is: is the "lat...