1010 track wear

[dustin]

I skidded logs out of the swamp this winter and put 100~ hours on the machine... sure is a handy machine! The lumber will be used for our winery building in the future.

My problem now is the track one one side is wore out. The previous owner said something about welding half pieces of pipe to the bottom of the pins on one one track to prolong its life. Now it looks as those are wore out and the track sometimes jerks in reverse. I know it will only get worse. I will include pictures of the bad track, and then the good track. You will know the difference.

What's the best thing to do... replace the track? Any idea what new/used tracks are going for? Not sure if the sprocket thats on there is "custom" for the homemade size pins either. Do I drive the machine till the track falls off? Just wondering if I can do any more damage... it drives fine in forward, just clunks when there is a load on it in reverse.

Here are my pictures, thanks!
Dustin

[Lavoy]

Ah, the famous weld a piece of pipe to get more life out of the rails trick. In the first place, if the rails were perforated, which I am sure they were, that is why he welded them, they were well past shot to start with. At that point, they are so far out of pitch that it is destroying the sprockets already. Making the bushing round again at that point does nothing really, the pitch is still way off, and the damage to the sprocket continures. At that point, you are knowingly running the tracks and sprocket to destructiong.
Normally you would rebush your rails, but with junk welded to the bushings, this is maybe out of the question now, not including the fact that pins and bushings are hard to find now.
About your best option now is to convert to 350 rails. Availability is sporadic now, but I think I have a set on hand. You will also need to rerim your sprockets with 350 rims.
Lavoy

[dustin]

Oh great, i was hoping you would tell it could be fixed with ductape and bubblegum. If i continue to run the machine, what else would be ruined besides the already ruined track and sprocket? Lavoy, how much are you asking for the other track and sprocket? Is it an easy swap out or are there any changes i would need to make to my machine? Do you have to swap both sides also.... thanks for the help, and the bad news!

[JD440ICD2006]

Sorry to hear what you call "bad news". I guess there are many positives as in your crawler runs and steers.

It is just not reserved for crawlers, you should see some of the "handy work" that has been done on old tractors. All I can say is, some of these old guys were very creative, but did not have much of a clue for what the future would bring based on their "repairs".

This is one reason dealers and some sellers paint a tractor and crawler. It tends to take the eyes off of what is really and truly the only important parts - the engine and drive train.

The really good news. Once you fix it correctly with the proper parts, you will only need to do regular maintenance to enjoy a vintage crawler for many years to come.

I would like to see us establish two classes of old crawlers. Those that have truly been recently rebuilt and gone through, and then the others that either have been painted, and/or "steer good", "start and run good", and have "about 70% track left."

[Tigerhaze]

If i continue to run the machine, what else would be ruined besides the already ruined track and sprocket?

The undercarriage generally wears as a unit, so you could also expect the bottom rollers, top idlers, and front idlers to wear out as well over time. The main problem with original 1010 tracks is that the track links are no longer manufactured and replacement pins and bushings are scarce. That is why Lavoy recommended switching to the relatively more available 350 tracks.

[dustin]

Lavoy, Greg Larson from Esko said he might stop out and check out my machine. He has 4 1010's out in the field but didn't seam too motivated to sell just a single track. He said swaping to a 350 track/sprocket didnt sound like too much fun either.

Any opinions on what would happen if I keep driving the machine as is? If the track/spindle are beyond repair, do I drive it till it falls off, or could I somehow do damage to the finals or clutch? Not seeing how that could really hurt it though as long as the track is moving freely.

This little machine has been pretty good too me so far. I only average about one hour of work per one hour turning wrenches per one hour of dozing. That's normal or good right?

[cat10til2]

when I replaced the rails on my 1010 2 years ago, I bought a set of new 350 rails and they cost $1800. for the pair with new nuts and bolts for the pads. I did not rerim the sprockets as they seem to fit the chains perfectly. Not sure if they are 1010 spockets that were worn a bit and fit the 350 rails or if the previous owner put the 350 sprocket on the 1010 center.

[Lavoy]

Worn 1010 sprockets will work for a while, but eventually, they will get even thinner and start to chew up the bushings.
Lavoy

[whiteclipse16]

I don't want to hijack the thread but, are there any rails that will interchange on a 440. I was comparing my 440 tracks with the ones on my 1010 and the 440's are worn pretty badly.

[Tigerhaze]

I don't want to hijack the thread but, are there any rails that will interchange on a 440. I was comparing my 440 tracks with the ones on my 1010 and the 440's are worn pretty badly.

One of the members on this site did a nice cross-reference table- I have attached the hyperlinkl for it:

http://users.upwardaccess.com/trachte/c ... geXref.jpg

Here was the full thread:

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... ross+parts