reverser on 440 icd

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reverser on 440 icd

Post by frozendozer » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:59 pm

i am not able to push with my crawler and when i opened up the reverser for a look see, i noticed the oil was burned black. It uses automatic transmission fluid. can someone tell me where to get this rebuilt? or is it something,ic an do, if i am able to get the parts?


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Post by Lavoy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:42 pm

If you are at all mechanical, you can do it yourself. Parts are avaialable, but pricey. Get a factory parts and service manual before tackling the job, it will be worth it. If you get stuck, ask here, someone will know the answer.
One question, are you using the foot clutch when shifting the reverser? If not, that will contribure to greatly accelerated wear and/or damage.
Before you take it apart, have you tried adjusting the clutch packs, that migth fix the problem.
I would also drain, flush and refil the reverser with Hy-Gard or equivalent.
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Post by Gil » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:49 pm

Just a note to advise you that many people run hydraulic/transmission fluid in their reversers rather than ATF fluid. I use ATF in some, Hy-Gard in others. It will vary what the fluid looks and feels like...... but it should still not be black.

As far as working on it yourself, you certainly can give it a try. Nothing really too difficult, but it depends on what the problems are. I assume that you tried to adjust it by the book. You definitely need to do that first.

Your main difficulty maybe in getting parts. Or affording to get parts. But first you will have to tear it down and see what the problems are. Two alternative solutions are to buy a used reverser. You would need to buy it from someone who knew that it worked. Or to buy a straight through shaft which goes in the same case but eliminates the reverser function. This could also give you time to get the guts of your repaired.

Good luck, Gil
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reverser on 440

Post by gregjo1948 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:49 am

Is that a manual or hydraulic reverser?
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Post by Lavoy » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:19 am

Manual reverser, but wet clutch type.
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Post by frozendozer » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:45 pm

that straight thru shaft sounds great. were could i get one of those?

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Post by Lavoy » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:07 pm

You would need a shaft and the coupler, and they are getting hard to find at times. There is little more work involved in a rebuild vs a straight shaft, I would just fix the reverser.
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