440 large vs small tranny
440 large vs small tranny
Well, just found out if you put a large style tranny as a replacement for the small style, you will be an inch off on attaching the bell housing and engine to the c channel. Took me two hours of measuring to find the small tranny is literally 1 inch shorter length casting than the larger style. So now the engine sticks past the mounting holes on the c frame by an inch. Holy xhxhxhsjdjxhshsjdhdjs john deere you couldn't make the jfhdjdjfhdkkxjxjdhdjxjsjxjdj casting the same length???
Not sure if anyone knew this or not, but if you are piecing a 440 together from pieces like me, then now you know.
Only easy solution I see is drilling new holes to mount engine and bell housing, since I am 65 percent back together now.....
Hoping hood fits correctly now, and rad clears front casting..
Not sure if anyone knew this or not, but if you are piecing a 440 together from pieces like me, then now you know.
Only easy solution I see is drilling new holes to mount engine and bell housing, since I am 65 percent back together now.....
Hoping hood fits correctly now, and rad clears front casting..
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420 62 blade 3pt
Looking for 24 scarifier and 440 log arch
I think you will find that it will not work, buddy of mine went though this years ago.
Lavoy
Lavoy
Parts and restoration for antique and late model John Deere crawlers.
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From what I'm told large tranny has a 4 bolt plate over the ring gear. So if both have this plate I think you are fine. Not sure when small tranny was stopped. I'll let everyone know how much fab work is involved with this... Worst case I think the hood needs chopped by an inch......
440 ICD 64 blade & 8a gear attic winch
440 ICD 831 loader with scarifier and weights
420 62 blade 3pt
Looking for 24 scarifier and 440 log arch
440 ICD 831 loader with scarifier and weights
420 62 blade 3pt
Looking for 24 scarifier and 440 log arch
- DukeofDeere
- 1010 crawler
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- Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:12 am
- Location: Hudsonville Michigan
All diesel and gas after 448,001 use the large tranny. At this time, the reverser case changed to larger studs, and the side frames to accommodate the longer transmission. There are likely other changes at the same time.
Lavoy
Lavoy
Parts and restoration for antique and late model John Deere crawlers.
Owner and moderator www.jdcrawlers.com
Owner and moderator www.jdcrawlers.com
Thanks Lavoy once again you got my blood pressure under control I just bought a late model 440ICD with a loader as a parts machine.. for my 440 ICD dozer.. I was planning to use the reverser and trans,and a few other parts.
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