40c shifter

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40c shifter

Post by fundytides » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:31 am

While working today, shifter stopped working. Transmission was in 2nd and working ok but couldn't shift out of gear. I removed the cover and as I had expected, end of shift lever had slipped out of the notch in the fork. I will disassemble per the factory manual and repair/replace whatever is worn and check all balls and springs. Is there anything special that I should watch for or any special tricks that any of you have learned in doing this work. Any advice is appreciated.
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by original possum » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:19 pm

Unless you are trying to keep it "original" you can replace the whole cover with a "caged" shifter off a 420 4 speed. Some interference with clutch handles going into one gear (fourth as I recall) but reliably finds all the gears, including first!
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by Lavoy » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:24 pm

As a general rule, what bothers is the "bearing" which is not a bearing, but that is what they call it. Remove the shift lever and check the wear in the slot. Repair and damage that you see there. Check the stud in the shift cover that goes in the slot in the shifter, often times it is loose or worn, replace as necessary. Replace the "bearing" and snap ring on the shift lever. Many times you can double up the snap ring which make the shifter a little stiff, but they shift so much nicer.
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by fundytides » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:13 pm

Thanks for the input. Stud in shifter cover looks good. I will replace bearing and double up on lock ring if necessary. I will also check detent balls and springs tomorrow as it appears that they are not working as they should on the 2nd and reverse shaft.
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by fundytides » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:50 am

Found a broken spring in the 2nd/rev. shifter. Don't see any other major wear. All interlocks and the other detents work well. I will replace the shift lever bearing as well. If I use a second snap ring as suggested by Lavoy, where will I place it?
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by Lavoy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:24 am

On top of the first one, it puts a little more down pressure the shifter ball. Just did one yesterday, works good.
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by fundytides » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:35 am

Lavoy, when you say to install the second clip on top of the first one, what holds it in place. I don't think 2 will fit in the groove but maybe I am wrong. Thanks
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Re: 40c shifter

Post by Lavoy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:18 am

Same groove as the first one, it fits.
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