oil for 440 reverser

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CELSESSER
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oil for 440 reverser

Post by CELSESSER » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:35 pm

Hi again,
I adjusted the clutches on the reverser today. Easy after reading the procedure from the manual on CD I got from Brad, thanks Brad. Especially the one line that said to jiggle the reverser handle while turning the adjuster!
Anyway, the oil level is low and who knows how old it is so I will be changing it. The Manual says type A transmission fluid but reading the threads I see that Lavoy likes HI Guard. My question is, Is HiGuard the same thing as AW 68 Hydraulic oil? Also what is the modern equivalent to type A tranny fluid?
One nice suprise is that when I took the barrel plugs out of the stearing clutch housings I found one side was clean with a nice shiny fresh throw out bearing, fresh springs etc. Of course the other side was black and even had spiderwebs in it.

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Post by Toivo1037 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:01 am

Chuck,
Been told that either Dexron II or III is a suitable substitute for Type A.

Take care of that reverser! I have a 440 tore down right now working on mine. Where abouts in Northern Michigan are you? I am in St. Iggy.
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Post by Lavoy » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:26 am

Hy-Gard is a commons systems or Multi-trans fluid is and designed to work as a gear lubricant. AW 68 hyd oil is only a hyd fluid, it is not meant to be used as a gear lubricant.
I think Type A became Type F fluid, but it has been a lot of years since I was in the auto parts business so the memory is kind of foggy.
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:42 am

Hi,

As I recall, Type A was what Chryslers used way back when, and Type F I know was Ford. You can still get both along with the newer typs in most auto parts stores.

I use Hy Gard in the reverser, too. Used to use JD 303, but that's long gone and Hy Gard is their replacement. You don't have to use the Deere brand per-se, as there's lots of makers of Hy Gard equivalent out there and most far supply stores have it cheaper than you can get it from Deere (of course). :)

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Post by CELSESSER » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:52 am

Thanks guys,
That is what I wanted to know.

Toivo, I'm in Gaylord, Just down the street.


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Post by Tigerhaze » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:17 am

My Bobcat M500 skid steer called for Type A transmission fluid. The dealer told me that Dexron transmission fluid would be a suitable substitute and it has worked fine in it.

I have a really good website that walks through the evolution of both motor oils and transmission fluids over the years- I might have to post it in the links forum when I get a chance.
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Reverser

Post by JD4302010 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:20 pm

Car Quest Type FA is what I found to cross reference for my reverser in a 430C
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