new member with a 1010 crawler

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:45 pm

Well its been about 2 weeks that Ive been trying to make a username but it finally happened today. Im not sure what was goin on. Heres some pics of our 1010.

The starter solenoid just cracked and Jd told me they dont make parts for the 1010 anymore because its an antique. Went to a electrical automotive place and they called an obsolete starter warehouse with a price of 200$ for a solenoid or 350$ for a rebuilt starter. I chose the rebuilt unit.

ANy comments would be appreciated. Thanks

wwattson · Post by **wwattson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:11 pm

Welcome to the board from a fellow 1010 owner!

I know what you mean about Lavoy taking a long time to approve memberships on the messageboard but after he approved me last year he got a lot more careful about making sure no more like me slipped in.

Nice looking 1010. Between the folks on here and eBay you should be able to find most of the parts other than sprockets. The Deere folks were pretty much lying about the 1010 parts. They stopped making 1010 parts long before the 1010 was an antique. The excuse just finally caught up with the fact.

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:28 pm

Im just glad I finally got though. Weve had the 1010 since July. One thing I do know is that you need to shut the fuel valve off when you let it sit or itll drain out. Im pretty sure I need to clean out the carb.

K LeClair · Post by **K LeClair** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:35 pm

Sweet!!!
Thats a nice 1010 you have there.Ours are almost identical.Mines a diesel but yours is cleaner. Keith

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:03 am

That's a nice clean 1010! Much cleaner than my 2010.

You'll definitely want to check with Lavoy if Deere says they don't have the parts. Some Deere dealers don't want to put the effort into finding parts if you don't have the part numbers available- I have had pretty good parts service from my local JD construction dealer (Murphy Tractor & Equipment).

I really liked the closeup of the counterweight bracket- I haven't seen one in person (i have the backhoe attachment) and suspected the bracket could fit into the pin holes and hooks on my backhoe bracket and now I'm pretty sure of it. Thanks!

K LeClair · Post by **K LeClair** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:08 pm

Tigerhaze,
I was wondering the same on my 1010.I have the same weights and bracket as pjw350.I was curious if the same brackets are used to mount the weights and the backhoe set-up???Possibly a ripper set up as well???

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:39 pm

I really have no idea about the brackets. We bought a home in the UP and this was sold to us through the owner. Any info on this unit would be appreciated. The ripper lever is missing. Im not sure what a ripper is though. I bought a manual off ebay and have slowly been learning.

http://bikepics.com/members/pjw350/personal/

Theres more pics in there of it and other equip. If you click the pics 2 times it will zoom in real real close.

Can anyone tell what condition the undercarriage is in?

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:57 am

The ripper is a synonym for scarifier; it is a horizontal bar with shanks that can be raised or lowered to rip (scarify) the ground behind for easier digging and loading. The brackets for it would mount in place of the pin and hook brakets (at least on the setups I have seen) you have so you don't have it now. I also don't think you can mount the ripper directly on the backhoe brackets.

What is nice about that setup is I believe the ripper lever also means you have a diverter valve in case you wanted to mount a 4in1 bucket or other implement that runs off of the hydraulics- Lavoy would have to confirm that.

His bracket looks a little different than mine; mine mounts up underneath near the the finals for more support when using the hoe. I'm not sure why the non-hoe machines use a similar pin and hook setup- it may very well be to mount a scarifier. Also you would need to make sure that the hydraulic pump has enough flow for hoe use. Lavoy is really the expert on that and can give better information than I. However the pin and hook holes look the same and should be fine for me to mount a counterweight bracket.

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:11 am

Concerning the undercarriage, a couple more closeup pics of the sprockets, front idlers, and track links in relation to the bottom rollers would help. From what I could see it looks like your adjusters are extended pretty far out which would indicate some internal pin and bushing wear. The sprockets look like they may be pretty worn (if the teeth are pointy and not ounded then they are likely worn). The triple-bar track pads look like they have some life left in them (compared to mine at least). I personally wouldn't get overly concerned if you will only have occasional use but you will need to keep an eye on it when using it to make sure you don't slip a track.

Again, Lavoy and others could probably provide a lot better input and it would help to get some more closeups of the undercarriage to give you a better assessment.

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:02 pm

Thanks alot tigerhaze for the info. I think I have almost read every page of these forums in the last 2 weeks trying to gain info and it does seem like I have alot to learn on these machines. I am putting the new starter in this weekend and will take better pics.

Did you go to my bikepics links and click on the crawler twice. You can get real close zoom in pics there.

Thanks again

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:37 pm

Hi-

I did click on them twice and while thatn helped it is still hard to see portions of the undercarriage. It would be good to get pics from about 3 foot away of the sprocket, bottom rollers (from the edge of the rock guards), adjusters, and idlers to give you a better assessment of undercarriage wear. you can also read some of the posts we have made about undercarriage inspection (like in the "Web Links" forum) to check yourself.

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:44 pm

The crawler is 360 miles from our house in Il. Ill be up in MI this weekend and will surely take some pics. Thanks

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:59 am

The wheels in the front have me worried. The one side looks more worn then the other.

http://bikepics.com/members/pjw350/unknown/Default.asp

close up pics are in there. just double click on the pic and itll zoom in

wwattson · Post by **wwattson** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:07 pm

Lavoy can tell you more from looking but altogether not that unexpected for a machine that age. The idler and bushing are available from Deere (AT10046) showing at $173 each. I bet Lavoy can help you out with these. The guide I can see on the left outside is some home made deal and the one on the other side is fully worn and has a gap between the track frame and guide. I think what's going on is everything in the front is loose and the flopping around is wearing the idlers.

Mine are worse and my plan of attack is:

1) Weld build up the track frame and grind to restore the original contours.

2) Weld build up the guides and mill or grind to restore the contours.

3) Install the required number of guide shims for a new guide and track frame.

Two ideas I've had is to mill out a new guide with enough clearance to install a 350/450 style wear strip in the earlier model crawlers. Lavoy might know if somebody already makes such a thing.

The other idea was to go with a hard facing buildup on the track frame and then go with a guide with a replaceable wear face. This would reduce the wear on the track frame where it's hard to deal with and allow you to retain the look of an early guide while cutting down the maintenance.

I haven't been able to find the guides but I haven't asked Lavoy if he has a line on new ones.

Pjw350 · Post by **Pjw350** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:55 pm

ouch. I feared for this post but I kinda knew it was coming. Sounds like it needs alot of work. If these problems are left unattended Im guessing it might jump off the tracks?

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