starting 2010 deisel

[Tigerhaze]

BTW, Lavoy carries the British Wellman glowplugs for the 2010 (I believe the glowplugs on EPay are made by May Co.) and he is competitive with the prices on EPay.

[jdemaris]

Jdemaris, I have read about the cold starting fuel primer but my machine had been stripped of the plunger and plumbing before I came along (think there was also an engine swap with an ag engine from a 2010 wheel tractor or combine). Is the setup simply the plunger with two fuel lines to it or is there more to it? Are the plungers still available from Deere.

I got looking around and found the Deere part # for the overpriced plunger pump is used in some military aircraft applications - along with some cross-reference #s. So, it seems there are other sources - and hopefullly cheaper? A generic # for it is K2405-1/8-6 and is made by Essex Precision Controls in North Carolina.

Here 's part of the military reference:

National Item Identification Number

01-351-8222
013518222
2910-01-351-8222
2910013518222
Reference Numbers (Part Numbers)

AT15807 (John Deere part #)

K2405-1/8-6




National Stock Number


Item Name

PUMP,ENGINE PRIMING,HAND DRIVEN

Federal Supply Class

2910

Description

A positive displacement pump specifically designed to force a measured amount of fuel to the intake manifold or combustion chamber of an internal combustion engine. It is designed for mounting to a bulkhead or panel. It may be furnished with attaching fittings and/or spacers which control capacity. Excludes DISPENSING PUMP, HAND DRIVEN.

Commercial and Government Entity Code (Supplier Data)


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Parts Hangar
partshangar.com

9438 US Hwy 19 N. #311
Port Richey, FL 34668

ESSEX PRECISION CONTROLS INC.
6 SUNNEN DR
SAINT LOUIS
MO
63143
314-644-3000

[jdemaris]

John,
If you know the place to get those aftermarket starting aids like you described, let me know, I would like to try one on the 1010 I am working on right now.
Lavoy

I did some searching around. The original fuel primer that Deere presently sells for over $500 is made by Essex Precision - mostly for the military and for aviation. I called Essex, and they sent me to Spruce Aircraft. Spruce sells the same primer pump for $165 (same one Deere gets over $500 for). $165 is still a lot of money, but that price sure beats Deere's.

Also, Spruce Aircraft sells and compete primer installation kit for $18.


ESSEX PRIMER K2404-1/8 part # 05-01048 $165.95
Primer kit - part # PK001 $18.95

Primer pump description - This primer, originally produced by Kohler, is positively leak-proof. Its exceptional priming ability has made it popular with manufacturers of general aviation aircraft. Has 1/8" internal pipe thread inlet and outlet ports. Overall length 3-78". Wt. 2.3 oz. New manufacture. Model K2404-1/8.

Primer kit description - Everything you need to add a plunger-type primer system to your aircraft. The kit includes the plunger, a reducer "T" fitting, 1/8" barb "T" fitting, and 10 feet of 1/8" pink urethane fuel line.

More info at:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/ ... imers.html

[big dan]

I have the primer and it works but what do you do with it I have usedit to smooth out it once it starts but it does not seem to help starting.

thanks dan

[Lavoy]

You prime slowly while glow plugging, 1-4 strokes depending on ambient temp. Once the engine starts, keep glowplugging until it runs smoothly.
Lavoy

[big dan]

ok i finely got it running and home sweet. fixed ground cable thanks lavoy for the info foud out that the oil bath filter was full of water so thats how come the starting fluid did not evan make it offer to start. now with no golw plugs just a squrt and a lot of priming it will start below freesing. now on to fixing it does any body got any idea what model winch i have like i said seems all hydro and pto no lever by the seat like in the repair manual.

[Tigerhaze]

Hi John-

Thanks for the research on the primer pumps- this is something definitely for me to look into as used primer pumps haven't been on Epay in a while and it seems that it really helps cold starting.

I do have a question- I saw on the link you provided that they have a cheaper eletrically-actuated primer valve. Do you think that could be made to work with these crawlers?

[Lavoy]

I saw that too, and was thinking the same thing.
Lavoy