440 icd air/drain tube

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440 icd air/drain tube

Post by Jaybird » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:03 pm

I have read a little on here about the air drain tube behind the governer of the 2-53 Detroit.
Should this have air flowing through all the time? Should there be water coming out? Does it only come out when warm? Mine does not seem to have anything coming out.
Any info would be great. Many thanks, Jaybird

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Post by Lavoy » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:47 am

I think they will have air all the time, check and see if yours is plugged.
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:00 am

Hi,

I often find drain and vent tubes get plugged by mud dauber wasps....

Somehow, that seems appropriate on crawlers! :P

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Post by Jaybird » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:39 pm

Took it apart .very plugged up. While I was there extended rubber line through belly pan. Now it works.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:22 pm

Glad you got it fixed. Yes it should have air all the time. In the manual there's actually a check to see if you are getting the right amount of pressure it off it.
Do you have any oil coming out if it. I have a "more than normal" amount that comes out of mine.
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Post by Jaybird » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:31 pm

Ben, there does seem to be some oil blowing out. How much is normal? I think it has been plugged up for many years before I cleaned it out. I hope there is no harm done.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:02 pm

I'm not sure how much is normal. I think mine is more or much more than normal and I drip about 1 drop every other second. I need new blower seals possibly, but for the 3-4 hours a year I run it, it's not worth the $500 to do it right now.
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Post by Jaybird » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:03 pm

Hey Ben, I see your from steubenville .I was raised in Holmes county Ohio and still go up there often. Do you have any good sources for parts in your area? I need two track tentioning springs and a couple other things.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:46 am

Jaybird, the dozers and parts definitely don't seems to be as plentiful up here as in other parts of the country and canada. There's a guy on here "HowardYoder" that I got a lot of good parts from. He might have the springs you need. I used Lavoy for as much of the new parts as I could. I got some stuff from FarmerJohn. He's on ebay and from Georgia. I'm pretty sure he has springs listed most of the time. His prices are pretty high though.
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Post by pop pop » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:13 am

the jimmie's design is to spit and slobber.
also, different oils have different results.
wear,heat,RPM
when they are warmed up they do better.
crankcase condensate has to work its way out and if it has sat for a long time you'll have more.
there was an old 6-71 in a truck we used to joke about,

'it ran best going wide-open,downhill on fire". :roll:
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:50 am

Hi,

We used to say 'tailwind'.

As in 'wide open, going downhill and with a tailwind'

The 2-53 equipped machines I used were 435 ag wheel tractors. They were used with the larger 3-string balers via the 1000 RPM PTO. Wide-nuts open. All day long.

Even the best shooting earmuffs weren't much help....danged Industrial Vacuum Cleaners....

Sure would spit out bales, tho.

:P

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Post by pop pop » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:17 am

ya i know we use to say tailwind but if you went the same direction for more than 5 minutes it switched to headwind. haha,
meanwhile hauling hay was always adventurous,
conditions were usually challenging.to say the least.

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Post by Jaybird » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:27 pm

Thanks to all.
I love this thing. I think my girls are feeling neglected from me working on this thing all the time. My wife says its my girlfriend.
. jaybird

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