Experiential MC

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The unit I modified was a dual cyl from a tractor. The rock shaft itself now sits behind the seat and a modern, short stroke, steel cyl is what's under the seat. On my mod, only the rock shaft and it's housing was used. Everything in front of it was junked.

This lowered everything down to original even using the original seat bracket. The seat is moved back a few inches which was really nice, giving longer leg room !!

The lower arms and top link brackets are steel and are made similar to the original design and pull from the same points. Given this, I believe they are as strong as the originals. The lower arms are tractor and probably are not as strong but fully up to anything I would use them for.

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Did some more thinking to day, put the belt pully on and checked clearances with fenders.
My 40 crawler had a Braden winch mounted to the tabs on the clutch housings, I'm wondering if I use the two top tabs and use the two large bolts that mount the belt pully if that would be strong enough?

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Just came across this, I think this is how Stan has his.
I think this is how I'm going to do it.

[Stan Disbrow]

Hi,

Yes, the top link mount looks pretty much like that.

I didn't make or adapt 3-pt pull arms like in that photo. I use the original QuickTach with a couple fabricated pieces where the original drawbar meets the original pull arms.

I could go take a pic or two of that if you want. But, I figure you are going to change that stuff out. Most do. I kept mine original as I have some original bits still and wanted to have my QuickTach and 3-pt too!

Being as yours is a crawler, I suspect you do not have any original stuff you want to keep the original bits for.

Stan

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Looks like the project is taken a back seat for now, I hooked the tuch O matic to the hydraulics on another tractor to see if it works and got oil out the fill,breather cap the arms went up but wouldn't go down now matter where I put the leaver?

[Stan Disbrow]

Hi,

You need the section on that unit from the M wheel tractor manual. There are spring loaded valves in there you need pull apart and clean up.

Stan

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Thanks Stan I will see if I have a manuel, never been inside a tuch O matic, first time for every thing.

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Looks like the project is taken a back seat for now, I hooked the tuch O matic to the hydraulics on another tractor to see if it works and got oil out the fill,breather cap the arms went up but wouldn't go down now matter where I put the leaver?

Did you have the hook up in a normal loop? The only thing hooked up on it originally was the pump, in and out. the unit you have was both the cyl, control, and tank. If you just put a pump on it for pressure, yes, oil would flood out. The oil is normally sucked out at the same rate it comes in. There's no down pressure and you would have to push down on the arms.

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I hooked up the high pressure line from the pump on my 40 crawler and had a hose from the suction side of the touch O matic dump into the 40s resivour with only a trickle of oil coming out. I figured it has an internal bypass valve and would circulate through?
I used all my weight to push down the lift arms,got them to go down about four inches buy playing with the leaver but not all the way.
This thing has been sitting around for awhile?

[Stan Disbrow]

Hi,

Yes, it bypasses internally. But, it will raise the lift arms up with the lever all the way down. Not a lot of force. The original QuickTach is heavy enough to stop the rise. I can force them down with about 20 pounds of force at the lift arms. It is just enough to keep the lift chains taut, really.

But, there are valves and no filtering. I have had to clean things out more than once. One time it decided it was going to go up and stay up and load the engine. Due to some crud in a valve.

The thing is supposed to set itself via the lever position, of course. Another time, mine decided to become an implement yo-yo. Up and down and back up. Yup. You guessed it. More crud to clean out.

Now, my poor little M suffered a lot until I got it. The issues were really all early on, and she's been fine for the past few decades. You know, someone who keeps her under a roof and actually performs regular maintenance.

Mostly it gets used with the cultivator rigs and that seeder/spreader. Some with a light blade and an even lighter rake.

And, just so no one is getting confused, my M is a standard wheel tractor, not an MC. She is getting into this discussion because of the Touch-o-matic part.

Stan

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I appreciate all the input, and your right Stan there is no filtering on this setup not even a screen that I can see.