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Post by lcfrace » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:16 pm

I am getting what looks like transmission oil in my motor oil. It's not water. Is it from the reverser? Do I have to pull the engine? Thanks Larry :x
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Post by jtrichard » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:59 pm

I don't know of any way to get trans oil in the engine AND IF you could I don't know how you would ever tell that it was trans oil ??
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Post by lcfrace » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:22 pm

It's not water because I'm not losing any out of the radiator . I drained almost 5 gallons out the motor oil pan! What could it be.
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Post by lcfrace » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:33 pm

It's not water because I'm not losing any out of the radiator . I drained almost 5 gallons out the motor oil pan! What could it be.
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Post by jtrichard » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:45 pm

I bet its a diesel? If it is the umbrella seals on the pump are leaking.... What you drained out was very thin? Went through a lot of fuel lately? I had the same thing on one of my 2010s
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Post by gregjo1948 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:51 am

I'd guess jtrichard is correct. If it is the pump seal, you can probably smell the diesel fuel in the engine oil. You'll need to pull the pump to replace the seal.
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Post by lcfrace » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:47 am

Thanks! I didn't even think of that, I and looked in the tank . Guess what, it is empty. :)
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Something other than oil in my oil

Post by Les » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:55 pm

I have a 450B with something watery in my oil. I am also leaking oil from around my pan (loose bolts for sure and probably a bad gasket, too). I know I have a leak around my injection pump. Do I have the same problem?
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Post by jtrichard » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:40 pm

IF the engine seems to be making oil and it is getting thinner then YES
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Re: Something other than oil in my oil

Post by gregjo1948 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:01 pm

Les wrote:I have a 450B with something watery in my oil. I am also leaking oil from around my pan (loose bolts for sure and probably a bad gasket, too). I know I have a leak around my injection pump. Do I have the same problem?
Is the coolant level correct? If there's coolant in the crankcase, you may have a faulty head gasket.
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Post by Les » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:39 pm

Definitely not coolant. That level has been rock steady.
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:22 am

Hi,

Well, the seals are on the pump driveshaft, so if the IP is wet on the outside it is a good bet fuel is also following the shaft right into the crankcase.

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Post by Les » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:10 am

My only hesitation is that it is fuel rather than water is that when I draw fluid out of the pan via the dip stick and soak a paper towel, and light it, it does not burn beyond the oil. Any thoughts here?
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Post by jtrichard » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:49 am

IF it was WATER MIXED in the oil then you would have a MESS that looks like mushroom gravy
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:21 am

Hi,

And, water won't stay mixed. It will wind up on the bottom overnight. Pull the oil drain plug and the water comes out first, then the oil. Then it mixes in the drain pan and forms that lovely mushroom gravy stuff.....

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