1960 John Deere 440 crawler help

[Jwadd]

Went to back up and heard a pop then gear grinding now it doesn't go into gear kind of pops out making a grinding noise
I am a complete newby where is a good place to start? Do I take the top off the transmission? Any help would be appreciated thank you so much.

[Lavoy]

That is probably the first place to look.
Lavoy

[Jwadd]

Took the top off the transmission. The shifting forks and gears all looked good. What should I do next? Do I leave the top off and turn the motor over to see if the input shaft is turning? Sorry for all the stupid questions I am as green as it gets with this

[Jwadd]

It stops grinding when I push in the clutch then starts again when I let the clutch out. Does that mean the clutch is still working and I need to look for something else?

[original possum]

I assume you mean it is grinding in neutral with the cover on. And by grinding you mean like putting it in gear with the clutch out. You need to see if any shaft is vertically or horizontally "loose". The best way to do this is with a hook bent into a welding rod. Hook each shaft (with the cover off) and see if it moves. There should be no visible (>about .015" ) movement. If there IS NO movement then, with the cover still off, slide the 2@R gear into 2 (rearward). At idle, let out the clutch and observe. Be ready to push the clutch in or you may get an oil bath.

[Jwadd]

I will give it a try in the morning thank you so much for the help.

[Jwadd]

I will give it a try in the morning thank you so much for the help.

[gregjo1948]

Does the machine have a reverser/shuttle?

[Jwadd]

Not sure I will post a pic of it

[Lavoy]

It is not "going" into gear, or when shifted into gear it does nothing, there is a difference, and you need to be more specific when trying to diagnose based on description. Do you have a service manual for your crawler, you are going to need it.
Lavoy

[Jwadd]

The clutch is shot I can't figure out how to post a pic. Where's the best place to order a new clutch???

[original possum]

Not sure how we got from "pops out of gear" to "clutch is shot" but Lavoy is the best source of quality parts.

[dtoots1]

Good idea to post your location in the profile, someone may be nearby to help!!!

[Jwadd]

I could open the little view windows on the side of the bell housing and see pieces of the clutch not right. Going to pull the motor tomorrow and see can't figure out how to post a pic???

[Jim B]

This site has a dedicated picture server. You can read about it on the Messageboard Q&A and Announcements board. Info should be the fifth and sixth posts down. You need to send Lavoy an email at postmaster@jdcrawlers.com to set up an account with a user name and password. In the meantime if you email the photos you want posted to me, I will post them for you. Send me a PM if you do and I'll PM you an email to send them to.