JD 1010 buying advise

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JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Chartersj » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:50 pm

New member here.
I am looking at purchasing my first dozer. Its a 1010 and wondering what are some things I should be looking for when I go to see it.
Not sure what year is it but apparently it has a 253 Detroit diesel engine. It has a manual angle blade. He claims the blade has power up function and only float down? Also it steers fine one way, and says it steers hard the other. If I'm lucky just a clutch adjustment?
The starter does not work, and he said he can jump start it so I can take it for a test run.

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by gus » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:32 pm

Lucky doesn't apply to crawlers. No such thing. If it was an easy fix it most likely would have been done.

It will have to be really cheap....

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Jim B » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:46 pm

I think the John Deere blades, even the manual angle and tilt ones, for those had power up and down. So unless it has an odd ball blade, valve, or cylinders on it; there could be some hydraulic issues. As gus posted and most will agree; if it was an easy fix it should/would have been done. I wouldn't count on being lucky.

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Chartersj » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:10 am

I'm having a hard time finding a starter and steering clutch rebuild kit to figure out what that it going to cost. Price is $1400 cad

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Jim B » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:46 am

A question popped into my mind after re-reading your first post. Hopefully someone will confirm if I am right or wrong. Did they use the 2-53 GM/Detroit in them as well? I thought the 1010 series was the first of the JD diesel engines. If they were originally only equipped with the JD engines, this one has had a transplant. That could make searching for engine and engine clutch parts more difficult, but they might have used parts from a 440ICD. Or it might be a 440ICD being labelled as a 1010.

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Lavoy » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:06 am

It is a 440, 1010 never had a Detroit.
Steering clutch parts are readily available, I go through hundreds of components per year.
If the starter doesn't work, it won't jump start either, so it is not the starter.
Sounds to me like the guy doesn't really know what he has or how to fix.
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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Chartersj » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:20 pm

Judging by the pictures i would say you are right that it is a 440. Which is a better machine?
Also do you have any idea what it could be if not the starter?

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by gregjo1948 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:04 am

Maybe the owner means he can "bump start" it by pushing or pulling. That would lead me to think the starter may be bad. If it is a 1010 diesel, it will have a JD 4 cylinder- 4 stroke and if a Detroit it will be a 2 cylinder-2 stroke that wasn't used, unless it has had a transplant. I'd prefer the Detroit 2 stroke myself. I found the JD 4 stroke to be a hard starter.
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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Chartersj » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:45 am

gregjo1948 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:04 am
Maybe the owner means he can "bump start" it by pushing or pulling. That would lead me to think the starter may be bad. If it is a 1010 diesel, it will have a JD 4 cylinder- 4 stroke and if a Detroit it will be a 2 cylinder-2 stroke that wasn't used, unless it has had a transplant. I'd prefer the Detroit 2 stroke myself. I found the JD 4 stroke to be a hard starter.
He says he can pull it with his truck to start it.
It's definitely a 440 icd. And I'm sure it has the 253 engine in it.
Can you get starters for these?

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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Lavoy » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:16 am

No starters available, but yours can be rebuilt. I do have one core left on hand, but no sense paying a core charge when you already have a starter.
I would check the wiring of the starter to make sure he just can't figure out how to wire it.
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Re: JD 1010 buying advise

Post by Chartersj » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:59 am

Lavoy wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:16 am
No starters available, but yours can be rebuilt. I do have one core left on hand, but no sense paying a core charge when you already have a starter.
I would check the wiring of the starter to make sure he just can't figure out how to wire it.
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Yeah they had it apart and Jerry rigged it for a bit but that broke as well. So I'm guessing it would need a whole new starter

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