Up date on 1010C diesel

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Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:17 pm

I was able to read serial number tonite,. it is 42162 which makes it made in 1963, which will help getting parts.
I had to remove seat and seat support, to rebuild the battery box, I also redone all the wiring to the switch. I will crank it tomorrow to bleed injectors. I have bled the filters. Also I replaced the left hydraulic line that control the bucket tilt, as it had a pin hole and rained hydraulic oil on me when spinning the engine over.
Does the diesel engine use the same exhaust manifold as the gas engine minus the intake portion???
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Lavoy » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:28 am

Completely different manifold.
I think yours is a 1964.
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:53 am

Lavoy wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:28 am
Completely different manifold.
I think yours is a 1964.
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Ok on 1964, tractor data shows 1963. But I'll go with your date!!!
I'll either have to find another manifold or do some repair work to this one. It is rusted extensively where the pipe comes out to the muffler. I might try some Muggy Weld.

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Lavoy » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:24 am

No new that I know of unfortunately. Tractor manifold may be the same, but not sure.
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:10 pm

OK, now I have another problem not getting much fuel to injectors.
1. I have bled the fuel filters, that didn't seems to change much.
2. checked to shut off valve under tank to make sure it was open all the way
3. check fuel control lever. The rod that that goes across behind motor is broken, I will repair when I take the hood off to repair radiator
4. I took line off the output of fuel filters that goes to the injector pump, very little fuel coming out. I suspect fuel filters need to be replaced.
the fuel filters are Hasting FF963

Question is: should there be more fuel coming out of the filters going to injector pump than just a trickle????

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by gregjo1948 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am

When I had a 1010C, I found a second fuel shut-off valve and they both had to be open to make it run. Almost seems like it was a return line that it was installed into. Maybe if the return line isn't open, the feed line can't flow as it should.
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:29 am

gregjo1948 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am
When I had a 1010C, I found a second fuel shut-off valve and they both had to be open to make it run. Almost seems like it was a return line that it was installed into. Maybe if the return line isn't open, the feed line can't flow as it should.
The return line is open. I had to replace the rubber fuel line that runs behind the head. I'll check to see if that second valve is open,it is hard to get at.
I might even take the line loose from the T at the filters.
But I'm more inclined to to suspect the fuel filters if they haven't been changed, like the oil filter. The oil filter hadn't been changed since it was repainted at the dealers, probably 10 years ago.

thanks for another suggestion.
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Jim B » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 am

Fuel should have a reasonable flow through the filters, some what dependent on fuel level in the tank. The more fuel in the tank the better the flow should be. Change the filters if you haven't, it a cheap starting point. Looking at a picture of the Hastings FF963, those filters could have the same gasket issue occur during installation as the WIX type. They have a groove with fuel outlet ports in the groove. Be sure the gaskets are in the right place when you change them, true for any brand.

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:17 pm

I have the fuel filters ordered at NAPA, will pick them up later as I'm little ways from town. I removed line at the T input of fuel filters, hardly any fuel at that point, so I blew in the hose going back to tank with air hose. After which I have a good volume of fuel flow, so seems the restriction is in the tank. I address that problem when I remove hood and other parts to repair radiator.

PS. going to change fuel filters anyway, like was said, GOOD insurance.

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:35 pm

I found my operators manual OM-T19259 and Service manual 2034. so now I can refer to them for all information that I might need.
I knew that I had them, but just could not remember where I put them,, hhhhmmm they were with all my other manuals : shock!! shock!! :roll: :roll:
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:38 pm

I change both fuel filers , bled both. I have good fuel flow out of the filters, but can't seem to get any fuel to injectors. I checked the input line at the injector, I have good flow there. Still no fuel out of injector pump. Is there a way to bleed the injector pump???

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Jim B » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:28 am

There should be a fine screen attached to the inlet fitting of the injection pump. Remove it and be sure it is clean. Try removing the return line, after shutting it off at the tank and see if fuel comes out the fitting on the pump.

I believe that after bleeding the filters, the manuals say to loosen the injector lines a turn or so then crank the engine over to bleed the pump and injector lines (I set the throttle 3/4 full or so when doing this on other engines). Is the fuel shutoff lever moving fully to the run position? How long has it been setting without running? There could be something stuck in the pump from setting, it happens.

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Stan Disbrow » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:51 am

Hi,

Is this one of those IPs with mechanical fuel shutoff? My newer straight 350 had one of those. Had to pull the handle past halfway before fuel would flow.

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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Keith-OR » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:00 pm

I don't see a fuel shut off lever on this injector pump. T he manual shows a cable going to injector pump, but there is none that I can find or see.
i had to fix a throttle shaft, which the end was rusted off, bent a new end, drilled cotter key holes, cut the bad one off old rod and welded the newly manufactured one on. Then hooked the injector throttle up. Now the throttle works.
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Re: Up date on 1010C diesel

Post by Stan Disbrow » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:40 am

Hi,

The older IPs use the throttle as the fuel cut off. The lever has to be pulled up past half way or no fuel flows. This as opposed to the later IPs which have an electric fuel cut off. Those will flow fuel with the throttle lever all the way down.

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