440 gm desial parts

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440 gm desial parts

Post by switchhappy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:21 pm

im needing a price on head gasket, and piston rings and rod berings, also oil pan gasket and valve cover gasket, id say my head gasket is leaking aintifreez into my motor,, but it aint bad at all.. its just a lil milky spots on the deep stick.. i thought mabe it was drawing moisture out of the air threw the stick but im loosing aintifreeze.. not bad,, just stared doing it after i had the radiator re done, what u all say, am i right>? also.. if it is the head gasket, am i on the right track by wanting rings and rod berings... it runs great. no smoke at all,
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Post by switchhappy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:16 pm

no one can give me info on this lil 2 cylender gm motor...
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Post by JD440ICD2006 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:20 pm

I don't know much about the 2-53, but I have one and have put some hours on it.
I am told that when these are set up right, they do smoke, it is just part of the "technology" at the time they were built.
As for the milky dip stick, it could be several things. You are on the right track my opinion, but check every place that it could be leaking, including an internal crack and the liner seals.
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Post by shinnery » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:02 am

The only part I have needed for my 2-53 I got from Stewart and Stevenson. http://www.stewartandstevenson.com/ They are a major Detroit diesel sales and parts company as part of their oilfield operations. Check their website, they may have a outlet near you or can ship it to you. HTH
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Post by Lavoy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:59 am

Send me an e-mail with all the parts you are looking for, and I will check and get back to you.
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gasket set for 2-53

Post by 2cycle » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:12 pm

I get all my parts for detroits through interstate diesel out of virginia MN. You also can ask them some questions about your water problem. I think if your head gasket was bad you would have some white smoke or something.. if your oil is milky you may have a o-ring out on your liner.
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Post by switchhappy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:09 pm

does anyone have a exploion view of the head and gasket for the 2-53.. im kinda needing to know all the parts that are in that area,, are the o-rings on the liners and head or what? i have not tour it down yet, im still useing it.. just keeping a close eye on it...
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Post by JD440ICD2006 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:58 pm

I trust that this advice will be taken in the proper sense. It is just about impossible to have one of these and keep it running right without owning the service manuals.
Yes, we can change oil and filter and that stuff, but when it is time to do anything at all past the normal, those service manuals are invaluable.
A parts book is helpful too, as some of the parts are still available since the 53 series is still being supported with parts. Many of the internals are the same, we just only have 2 cylinders instead of 3 or more.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)

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Post by thomastractorsvc » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:34 pm

Contact BKahler he is the guy for manuals. http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... php?t=2316
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Post by ohmgman » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:02 am

The 2-53 Detroit can be set up with several different injector nozzle sizes. N-60's /N-65's I think are pretty popular. Is your cam set in the "advanced timing" position?

Water in oil...yeah, prob a bad cylinder to water jacket seal leaking.

Is your thermostat working properly?

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Post by Lavoy » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:14 am

The 440 originally came with S35's, and unless the pistons have been changed to N series pistons, this is what it should still have. Anything larger than 35's, and you better be buying drivetrain parts in bulk.
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Post by switchhappy » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:51 pm

well thats nice to know, and thanks for the pick of the book.. im gonna have to buy a manual to go with the rest of the crawler..lol so what is the hp of the 2-53 and if u do go with biger injectors how much hp gain are u getting, mine is rilly strong.. i mean i move stuff biger then the crawler that my 8000 ford wont push
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Post by Lavoy » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:10 pm

They are supposed to be 33HP, and they had about 10% more torque than the gasser. I think the top rating on a non turbo 2-53 is about 63HP.
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Post by switchhappy » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:20 pm

well thats up there.. id say mabe 40hp would be to much on the rear end..lol
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:02 pm

Hi,

Boy, it can be really hard on the rear ends. I saw a lot of 435's with toasted rear gears when I was a kid.

Deere made an Ag version of the 430W (row-crop utility) with the Diesel they used in the 440's in it, and called it the 435. It was advertised as a HAYING tractor, and even came with a 1000 RPM PTO on it to run a hi-cap bailer.

Note that the extra power from the diesel was intended to go out the PTO shaft and not thru the diff gears.

Now, most owners of the 435's decided that it made a dandy 4-bottom plowing tractor. So, they ran the HP out thru the diff. Bad idea. They ate rear gears like mad.

As I say, I saw a lot of 435's in the shop for rear gears. Not so many 440's though as they wound up using the power differently than a wheel tractor pulling bottoms thru a field does. Don't forget that the crawler has no diff, so the gears can be made heavier than in the wheel tractors.

Anyway, I'd not go looking for more HP from the 440 diesels after having seen what happened to the 435's. - and the 435 was such a sweet haying tractor, too. I spent many hours on one making hay. :)

I almost bought one 'restored' for $6k this past summer but opted for a brand-new 5103 instead. I was using an 8 year old 4500 but it didn't have quite enough power for the baler when the windrow became thick. Deere had a 0% financing deal on the 5103 for 3 years and they offered me enough to trade in the 4500 that the 5103 cost me the same $6k I almost paid for the old 435.

Anyway, the 5103 is a lot more machine than the 435 and has more than enough power for the job. Plus, my personal favorite engine has always been the 3-cyl anyway and the 5103 has a 3/179 turbo, which is pretty sweet in it's own right.

Later!

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