A couple of questions , before ordering parts.

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Thu May 29, 2008 2:20 pm

Gil , if I get the time next week to run the material out to my machinist , he could have them done in about a week from what he said . The ones he will be making will be from aluminum tube stock instead of plastic , after I emailed him the drawing we discussed it and decided to make them from aluminum instead . Once he has the first one done he will have a price set for each set . I will be having four sets made two for my shop and two to sell to try to cover costs . If you are wondering why two for my shop . My shop can eat things faster then I can buy them . The shop gnomes are very active in my shop , and Gnome Away has not helped at all . Next step is to build a new shop and have it blessed by the local Indian Medicine Man

. Dan

Gil · Post by **Gil** » Thu May 29, 2008 2:54 pm

Thanks for the update. Send me an email or a pm when you know how much you want for one, unless you already have them promised.

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Thu May 29, 2008 3:00 pm

Gil , Not promised as of yet so you are on the top of the list .

. Dan

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:41 pm

Have enough material left over from making the tool to make three more complete sets of these , two are already promised , so that leaves one left up for grabs . They were not cheap to make as I have around $90 in materials already invested . Since I finally rid my shop of gnomes the spare I was going to keep is up for grabs .
Larry and Gil I figured the price out again , I made an error as I figured full shipping on an order that had more than just the aluminum tube in it .
Here is the correct price $82.37 ea plus shipping to your door . I am not making any profit on these just trying to cover my costs . But I have to pay the machinist and he does not work cheap .

Dan

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:12 am

Pictures of the tool .

The tool is made from 6061 alloy aluminum should give years of service .
Dan

Ray III · Post by **Ray III** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:26 pm

How does the tool work? Just poke it through the seal from the inside?

I think I figured mine out, first I tried pulling nylon string through it which I have no idea if it worked since you can't see a thing. But here is what happened. I got a seal repair sleeve to cover the big groove in the axle shaft. Lavoy said I'm not allowed to do that, but I got one from the auto parts store and did it anyways.

(Used JB Weld to fill in underneath it) Then when I was messing with the seal trying to see which way the lips were pointed, I accidentally slipped it off the edge of the repair sleeve, and in pulling it back over realized that there was no way the lips could be facing inside now.

So maybe all that needs to be done is to install a seal sleeve, even if you don't need one, and push the seal's outside lips past the sleeve then pull it back on.

OR... buy a seal sleeve that is slightly larger than 2.500 like 2.510, so it can be slid off, and use that as a seal tool?

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:01 pm

Ray the part in photo #3 with the heavy shoulder is the actual tool. The part in photo #2 slips inside the tool and allows you to "load" the seal on the tool without damaging the sealing lips . It is beveled on the end to lift the lips . The seal is installed in the retainer than as the tool as shown in photo #1 is inserted into the seal from the inside to the outside and then you remove the second part and install the whole mess onto the axle shaft without losing the whole mess

. I will be trying it tomorrow if I can get one or the other final drives off the crawler . Clear as mud , right

If I get to try it tomorrow then I will take video and still digitals of the process . Dan

Post by **Lavoy** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:08 am

I tried using a redi-sleeve as a tool, only cut 4 fingers in the process, they are just too thin and sharp, plus they are sharp enough to cut the seal too. A redi-sleeve in that diameter will be $50 or more now too.
Lavoy

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:27 am

The last AM2774T Seal Installation Tool is sold .
If I get enough interest in them I could have some more made , Looking for a less expensive source of the 6061 Aluminum tubing to get the price down some . Dan

Post by **Lavoy** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:51 pm

Have you thought of PVC pipe or pipe fittings? I have one done that way, works fine.
Lavoy

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:35 am

Lavoy . PVC would have been my first choice IF we could have found the right wall thickness , Also would have had to buy a whole joint of pipe . Since I am paying to have them made , the difference in machining time would not been much but would have been more on the cleanup time on the lathe . So it would have evened out . Another friend of mine is checking with his metal supplier to see what 10' of the two sizes of tubing would be . He say's it would be cheaper to buy it that way . Dan

wwattson · Post by **wwattson** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:02 am

I actually bought a 6 foot length of PVC pipe from McMaster Carr for this project but I haven't gotten around to turning out the seal tools yet. The prototype is going to Jim for verification as soon as I get it done and then I'm still guessing the the PVC version will be about $30 and the steel version about $50.

Sorry for the delay but I've been doing a good business refurbishing Geiger counters and selling them on eBay along with being up at Oshkosh for the EAA Airventure. So many things compete with my crawler time.

Bill

Lu47Dan · Post by **Lu47Dan** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:51 pm

Bill , Gieger counters , I have not seen one of them since I left the Army years ago . But hey if you can sell them , why not . Thanks for the update . Dan

Ray III · Post by **Ray III** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:19 pm

You need those for testing your homemade breeder reactors.

Post by **Lavoy** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:29 pm

Hey, wait a minute, I get razzed about making a comment about crawlers multiplying, and but here Bill is talking about breeders?

Lavoy

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