Frozen track adjuster JD 350

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Frozen track adjuster JD 350

Post by doug » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:53 pm

Recently had new tracks installed, idler rebuilt, replaced worn rollers. The mechanic greased everything but I felt the tracks were too tight so asked to loosen them. One side released fine but the other wont release. Any ideas why it wont slacken?

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Post by tuney443 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:50 pm

Because the grease has probably hardened enough that it won't bleed out the hole in the adjusting bolt.If you have a 6 way blade,simply keep the bolt backed out and use a board between the back of your blade and the front of the track to compress the adjusting cylinder some.Go easy--once I shot grease up onto a customers siding doing this.
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Re: Frozen track adjuster JD 350

Post by jdemaris » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:55 pm

doug wrote:Recently had new tracks installed, idler rebuilt, replaced worn rollers. The mechanic greased everything but I felt the tracks were too tight so asked to loosen them. One side released fine but the other wont release. Any ideas why it wont slacken?
As I wrote in response to your other post - sounds like this to me. With the old worn track - the adjuster piston was running way out for a long time and got rusty. That is very common. Then, when you pin and bush, or try to install new tracks - the piston has to be shoved back in. That usually cannot be done unless it gets cleaned off, wire brushed, etc. If you tried to collapse it without doing that - it is likely to be your problem.

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Post by jdemaris » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:01 pm

If the tracks were just off - this probably is not relevant - but . . . 350s sometimes break the stop bolt inside the big shock-absorbing spring that sits behind the adjuster. If that bolt broke, the spring pressure goes against the track - and you'll never get it loose without repairing it.

Seems though if someone was running around with a grease-gun, your track just got pumped too tight and you have a jammed adjuster piston.

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Post by doug » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:35 pm

If the adjuster piston is jammed, is there a way to unjam it?

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Post by jdemaris » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:50 am

doug wrote:If the adjuster piston is jammed, is there a way to unjam it?
Yeah, take it out. That won't be easy with a tight track - but it can be done. Unbolt it from the front idler-fork. Then it can be pulled out - there is nothing else holding it except for the track tension. Then try to pump it apart with a grease gun. We had several that we had to hook to dozers to the assembly - one at each end -and pull. Sometimes they break -but that's just the way it goes.

Adjusters that were run for a long time - all the way out - often get so rusted they are ruined. You'll just have to clean it up and see.

While you're at it, if not done already, you should recut the seal-groove on the piston and update to the 350C style.

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Post by doug » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:10 am

Thanks for your advise. I'll see how it goes pulling it out.

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Post by doug » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:42 am

Do you think I can expect sufficient slackening of the track from using the machine. Again these are new tracks.

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Post by Gil » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:32 pm

Once you get the piston out, if you cannot pump it apart with a grease gun, try pushing it in instead. First clean the rod where it will go into the barrel. Then put it in a 10 or 20 ton press. Be sure to open the relief value! Then see if you can press it in to move just a little to break the grease seal. Then you may be able to pump apart out with a grease gun.

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Post by doug » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:11 pm

What I am wondering is if I do nothing to the adjuster as far as freeing it, can I expect to get 1.5 - 2 inches of slack as the new track wears in?

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