Newbie with question - was hoping to be a JD crawler owner

[pernsdorff]

I was just in the process of picking up a 2010 crawler with backhoe.
Just when I was trying to schedule a time to see it run he told me he just found out that it was being used recently to pull a truck (or something) and now won't move in forward or reverse.
I would assume that something serious likely broke.
I have no other details other than that but wondering if I should bother to continue waiting for word on what the problem is. I am trying to find a machine this size to do some work on property. I am well capable of doing the repairs if it is worth it.
Looks like a strong machine but probably not worth $8500. Any thoughts out there?

[wwattson]

Seems like for that kind of money you could find a 350 or 450 in need of some TLC. At least you'd be able to find parts unlike a 2010.

Just my opinion.

[Lavoy]

That price is way out of line, even if it did run and drive, I would look for another machine, or offer him a couple thousand if you are interested in fixing it yourself.
Lavoy

[pernsdorff]

Thats what I thought.
I have seen these machines going for over 6000 that needed some work but still thought was over priced.

Thanks for your opinions. I take it the 2010 is not a favorite out there.

[wwattson]

I'm in the process of restoring a 1010 which is sort of the little brother of a 2010. Parts are hard to come by and expensive and I've had to make or repair rather than replace many broken parts. I think the 2010 would be a fun machine to have if it weren't for the fact that you're one major component failure away from having to scrap the thing do to repair expense. If you've got some room for a few junkers laying around for parts, you might be able to make it work.

If you're going to use it every day, I'd either go with something older or something newer than the 2010. If you can live with the smaller machine, I really like the 440Cs. Parts are actually easier to come by for the MC, 40C, 420C, and 440C crawlers than they are for either the 2010 or the 1010 (exception being the late 440C sprockets). They're simple, reliable, and easier to work on than first New Generation models like the 2010 and 1010.

I think I'm either getting a 440ICD or an early 350 for my everyday working crawler. I'll go with 350 tracks and the newer sealed rollers if I rebuild a 440.

Again, just my opinion.

[pernsdorff]

Opinions are greatly appreciated

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[Tigerhaze]

I'll give you my $0.02 as a 2010 owner as my first machine.

I got pretty lucky with mine (2010 diesel with backhoe attachment) in that it wasn't priced as much as the one you are looking at and all of the major components work. It can do quite a bit of work and has come in really handy for putting in my new house and dealing with timber on my property. I know that the 2010 wheel tractors had some common major problems (such as the hydraulic systems); however I haven't seen the same with my 2010 crawler.

However Bill is dead on about parts availability; it is spotty and the parts that are available are pretty expensive. A 450 would likely be cheaper in the long run with regards to parts prices and availabilty if you plan to use it a lot or keep it for a long time. The 2010 engines and H-L-R transmissions are expensive to repair, but at least they have parts. The undercarriage is a big issue- if it is worn like mine you'll find that parts are unavailble or very expensive (unless it is a post-42000 machine that can accept 350 tracks).

I would especially worry if the H-L-R transmission is the current problem- JdeMaris can tell you all about the expense and difficulty repairing them. You would need to do as Lavoy said about passing on it or making a low offer if that turns out to be the problem.