new clutch 440ic

[john lewis]

Hi again, came to conclusion need new clutch.Told had to take motor out to repair,i got rad,hydralic pump,off. Trying to remove mount in front that hold hyd. pump.nut on bottom is some hard to get to, any tips would be great, cause it is going hard.Figure i break it at reverser and pull it forward.Once again any tips feel free to tell me this is my first time to remove any engine so i can use any advice i can get, thanks john

[ironyetty]

I'm not sure, but will the motor pull forward far enough to get the reverser input shaft to clear, to get the motor up and out?

Ironyetty

[john lewis]

The motor is now in my garage.The shaft came out with motor and i pulled on it and it came out then i pushed it in revercer and it went night in,is that normal,there looks like a thin piece of wire in bellhousing might be some kind of clip thanks john

[ironyetty]

I forget how the shaft attached in the reverser, I will have to look at the manual. I know the shaft just slide in the motor and meshed up in a collar.

[john lewis]

good to know it just slides out of motor,now i just got to find out about how it goes in reverser and wether it should be able to slide out the way it did.I dont want to tackle clutch till i find out, i may just have a broken clip, not a clutch problem,appreciate any info thanks john

[john lewis]

Talked to a guy here with 1010,said shaft came out like that so im ok.Took pressure plate off and clutch disk is wore down,also it was only grabbing on top 3/4 inch, does that mean pressure plate is bad our just not adjusted right. thanks john

[Ray III]

It's common to see clutch disks grabbing on the outsides, because as they wear out and start slipping the heat warps the friction material away from the disk near the outside.

They also get hot from abuse, in which case the clutch disk gets too fat for the pressure plate to release completely and you have a really hard time getting it in gear because the transmission keeps going. (Not related to you, just saying that's another way it happens)

[john lewis]

Hi while i have motor out i was wondering if somebody out there could walk me thru how the gears work, that is when i put it in reverse should shaft turn 1 way and not they other, if reverser is in reverse shoud shaft turn if not what should i look at before i put motor together.I dont want to haft to pull this out again, thanks john

[Ray III]

The engine only turns one way so it doesn't matter that the shaft can turn both ways.

In forward position, there are 4 or 5 gears that will make the machine move forward when you rotate the input shaft clockwise (direction of engine rotation). There is also one gear that makes the machine move backwards.

In reverse position, the 4 or 5 gears will make the machine move backwards, while the reverse gear is reversed and actually makes it move forward.

[Lavoy]

If the reverser input shaft comes out, it will drop the shims that go between the front bearing and the front clutch pack, those need to be there.
Lavoy

[john lewis]

Is the reverser input shaft the one that goes into motor,if so what does that entail?Do i haft to remove reverser,the shaft goes in and seems to fell good.thanks john

[Lavoy]

Yes it is. You will need to remove the front bearing/seal quill of the reverser and see if any shims fell down. Look it up in the service manual before you do, it will explain what they do more clearly.
Lavoy

[john lewis]

how can i see throw out bearing touching fingers when using gauge to set pressure plate and what are clutch fingers thanks john

[Ray III]

You don't see the throwout bearing touching the clutch, that happens after it's together and you adjust the throwout bearing separately.

The clutch fingers are the 3 (I think) levers in the middle of the clutch (attached to engine) that the throwout bearing (in the center housing) presses on.

The gauge is to set the height of the fingers relative to the flywheel, not the throwout bearing.

[Lavoy]

Go to the Faq's section, the clutch setting procedure is detailed there.
Lavoy