440 final drive questions

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440 final drive questions

Post by 72Pstroke » Fri May 22, 2009 9:09 am

I have my neighbors 440ic in the shop replacing the axle in the left final drive. When he bought the machine, the seller told him the ring and pinion was out of it as well. Is there any way to look at the ring and pinion without dropping the winch off the back of it?
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Post by shinnery » Fri May 22, 2009 10:59 pm

If it is one of the big transmission 440ICs there is a small plate (about 3x5") under the seat. If you remove that plate you should be able to see a little of the ring gear, may not be enough to determine if it is bad though. Only thing I know of.
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Post by 72Pstroke » Tue May 26, 2009 11:16 pm

What have I gotten myself into??
I got the winch off the machine tonight, and the ring and pinion is broken. I have a service manual ordered, but it won't be here for a few days. Can anyone point me in the right direction to tear this thing down in the meantime? Thanks for the help.
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Post by 440dozer » Wed May 27, 2009 6:38 am

Service manual says split the tracks and remove both finals. remove Bearing Quills.
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Post by Lavoy » Wed May 27, 2009 9:02 am

You will also have to split it at the front of the transmission as well.
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Post by 72Pstroke » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:47 am

I got all the parts in for the machine and got it back together. It seems to be working fine so far. Thanks to Lavoy and Crawler Heaven for all the parts I needed. They are both great to deal with.
On another note, the main clutch won't release completely. If you start the machine in gear, you can shift it and use it fine. If you start it in neutral the clutch won't release enough to let the tranny quit turning. The adjustment feels good, but didn't find much in the book on clutch adjustment. Any ideas???
Thanks for all the help.
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Post by Lavoy » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:52 am

Go down to about 1" freeplay and see if that will do it. Only other thing I can think of is if you replaced the clutch disc and got it in backwards if it has the long hub.
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