Cam shaft installation

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Stretch
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Cam shaft installation

Post by Stretch » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:35 pm

I am finally getting around to assembling the engine for the 2010 diesel crawler loader.
I cleaned the block and oil passages. I have installed new cam bearings. I have installed the lifters.
When I installed the cam shaft it was extremly tight. After I bolted the thrust plate down it took a great deal of strength to rotate the cam.
I pulled the cam back out and chamfered the edges of the bearings. The shaft was still tight.
I ended up lapping the #1 bearing a bit and the shaft got easier to rotate.
I still believe it is to tight though. I haven't measured the bore or journals yet, that will be tomorrow. Of all the engines I have put together in my life I have never had a cam shaft this tight.
The question I have is, Years ago I remember having to hone bearings for the proper clearance on some older equipment. Is this one of those that you have to hone?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Pistonman » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:26 am

Are you sure the cam is straight?

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Post by Stretch » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:17 am

Not 100%. When I pulled it out on tear down I didn't have any issues.
I will chuck it up on my lathe and put a dial indicator to it to check it.
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Post by Lavoy » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:56 am

Stretch,
Pretty sure you should not have to hone those bushings. Any chance you have the bushing slightly cocked, or maybe dinged an edge?
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Post by Stretch » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:36 pm

I ended up using a dial bore gage and measured each cam bearing. They were all within .003 to .0045. That is enough for oil. I did chamfer the leading edge of each bearing in case it got dinged when I installed them. I also noticed a couple of shiny spots on the no.1 bearing so I used 1500 paper and polished.
I slipped the cam back in and it turns much better but is still a little tight. Not near as bad as it had been. I believe I can live with it the way it is now.
Only problem now is that I was sent the wrong main bearings. :roll:
The box is correct but what's inside is not. Unless I am only suppose to use 3 mains. :lol:
I'm not sure, but what was in the box I swear is for a 2 cylinder.
Oh well, the saga continues.
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