1010 loader vs. dozer question

[Rick Kr]

Morning.

I have found a somewhat decent gas 1010 loader/rops and winch, but I am looking for the dozer blade.

Is this too much to tackle tearing off the loader and rops, then hunting down a dozer blade? Or should I keep looking until I find a dozer setup?

I am not real familar with the differences but it looks like the loader is mounted inside the tracks and the dozer blade on the outside. Do or can the tracks be moved in or out to do this change?

Thanks in advance,
Rick

[Lavoy]

If you want a dozer, look for a dozer, too much work to convert, and you will need another complete hyd system to do the swap. By the time you find a blade and hyd system, you will probably have half the price of a dozer crawler just in those two things.
Lavoy

[Rick Kr]

Thanks Lavoy,

I didn't know the hydraulics had to go to. I am not in a hurry so I have plenty of time to shop around.

Thanks again.
Rick

[Tigerhaze]

Lavoy can confirm this, but I believe that there are both outside and inside mounted blades for the 1010 dozers.

[Lavoy]

Correct, in terms of factory blades, there are 3 inside arm, and one outside arm. By model number, there are probably two outside, but they are the same blade, just one is able to tilt.
Lavoy

[Gil]

Lavoy,
What would have to be replaced in the hydraulic system to switch from a loader to a bulldozer? They are both open center controls aren't they? Just curious. I was considering putting a bulldozer blade on one of my dismantled loader machines.

[Lavoy]

The loader valve is part of the loader, no place to mount it once the loader is gone for the most part. Loader uses almost double the hyd pump, on a dozer, things will be moving pretty fast. You could restrict it down, but you will creat a lot of heat that way too.
Lavoy

[jdemaris]

The loader valve is part of the loader, no place to mount it once the loader is gone for the most part. Loader uses almost double the hyd pump, on a dozer, things will be moving pretty fast. You could restrict it down, but you will creat a lot of heat that way too.
Lavoy

The dozers use exactly the same pump as the loaders if ordered with the "optional" pump. Standard dozer uses a Cessna 13 GPM pump. Dozer ordered with optional pump is a Cessna 23 GPM pump. Loader comes standard with the same Cessna 23 GPM pump.

We sold many 350 dozers with the bigger pump. No negative issues. In fact, the difference is hardly noticeable except, the bigger pump makes the dozer work much nicer with optional attachments, like a rear backhoe, ripper, etc. Runs a 6 way blade better too, especially at low RPMs.

By the way, I'm stating pump ratings, using "Deere" speak. In reality, GPMs mean nothing if not stated along with RPMs. The easy way to ID the pumps is the size of the shafts. The small pumps have 3/4" splined shafts, and the large ones have 7/8" splined shafts (if my memory is correct).