spin on oil filter conversion?

[Tim_in_IA]

Does anyone know of a spin on conversion kit for the 440ic? I have found them for ford tractors and others. Can't find one for the dubuque engine yet.

[Lavoy]

Nothing that I have ever heard of, but it would be neat.
Lavoy

[Digger SR]

boy, you sure got that right! That rubber seal is a #@%@$

[CELSESSER]

Mine leaked quite badly. When I changed it to put in the big washer thingy that goes under the filter (which I got from Lavoy) I very carefully cleaned out the O-ring grove. Put it together and it has been bone dry ever since. I thought that there might have been two o-rings in there but there was just one and several decades of crud.

Chuck

[Lu47Dan]

Lavoy, I might set down and figure out an adapter for a spin-on filter. I know I can come up with something, the first few prototypes would be need someone to test them.
I wonder if there would be enough interest in them to make it worth the time to build them.
Dan.

[Lavoy]

Don't know how much demand there would be, but if not too much effort, might be worth pursuing. I know I had a 64 Impala with a 327 that I had put a spin on conversion from Mr Gasket I think. Never worked worth a darn, but was real poor quality.
Lavoy

[Gil]

You might search on eBay using words like "spin on" "oil filter" "adapter" "conversion". Search all eBay not just eBay Motors. You might get some ideas on design. If the JD440IC has an internal bypass valve you would need to deal with that since it would also be included in a modern spin on filter.

I did a conversion to spin on in my JD440ICD; but of course the connections were all via external tubing and were much simpler.

[Stan Disbrow]

Hi,

I actually don't see the use of such a thing.

Yes, the gasket can leak after 50+ years and they're a breeze to change out when it does happen.

The paper elements are less costly than even the Ford and Chevy spin-on filters at the local auto parts store.

If you change the oil with the engine warm, and drain the pan first, by the time you get to the filter the thing is pretty empty and one Scott blue paper towel handles what's left.

The only issue I've ever had with them is remembering to slip the bottom plate off the old element before I toss it into the trash can!

I like the original system on a tractor or crawler. I wish my new 5103 had the same system. Now, if someone were to come out with a retro scheme for the newer machines, that I might buy.

While we're inventing here, how about an oil bath air cleaner for the newer machines as well. I like those better, too. Although I'd keep the back-up inner disposable element with the oil bath as the primary. I like having the dual elements.

later!

Stan

[pop pop]

seems like i had bought my conversion unit thru JCWhitney. i had it for many years and now am converting it onto the 440icd.
takes up less room and the ph8a are plentiful,,

[Ray III]

I heard they are going back to the separate element design on some modern engines, not sure about that though. My 420 filter has never leaked. I do clean the gasket groove out with a pick. I like them better than the spin on filters because they don't catch an extra half quart of oil that dribbles everywhere, also they're easier to dispose of with less waste.

[Stan Disbrow]

Hi,

Careful with that pick. I screwed up the seal on my 420c doing that. After 50+ years I had to get a new one because I caused it to leak. Now, I just use the end of one of those Scott blue shop towels to clean the groove. So, I might get more duty time out of the new seal than I did the old one!

There's a 'funny' to this as well. At the time, I needed to use the 420c and didn't have a spare gasket on the shelf (what?!?). So, I stole the one out of my 430w until I got some spare sealing rings. Well, I forgot about that a week or so later and started up the 430w and guess what?

Yep. Oil running down the side of the engine block. That scared me all to heck, because I thought there was a new ventilation hole in the block. I've spent too much time racing, I guess, where such holes are fairly common!

So, I went and took the seal back out of the 420c and put it into the 430w and so could then use the wheel tractor without a total-loss oil system. Now, you're probably thinking I went thru the same thing the next time I started the 420c. Nope. By then the new seals had arrived!

later!

Stan

[Ray III]

I meant I cleaned out the groove where the seal goes. Probably doesn't have to be done every time, but crud does like to get packed down there.

Don't the filters come with new seals? I can't remember. I get the NAPA Gold ones.