reverser only works in reverse?

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Post by ckutz1985 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:59 pm

I Really Don'T Use My Reverser MucH And It's So Much Work To Fix Anything On It When It Goes I Just Figured I Would eliminate Any Possible future Breakdowns With It. Plus I Think It's Slot Of Money To Rebuild one

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Post by ckutz1985 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:00 pm

Are The Shafts ThE Same On The Gas 440?

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Post by ckutz1985 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:27 pm

I already have the coupling so that saves me some cost there. how much is it roughly to rebuild a Reverser?

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Post by JimAnderson » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:37 pm

The cost to to rebuild a reverser obviously depends on how much damage
you need to repair.If you already have the coupling then a shaft would be
a lot cheaper.Everything in the reverser is Deere only and I priced one
cross shaft in the differential at over $180.00.If you keep the internals
from the reveser you can always go back to it as time and money
allow.There is always a market for the internal parts so don't just
scrap them.Luck,JimAnderson

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Post by ckutz1985 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:22 pm

[/img] all i can see wrong with my reverser is my front clutch housing has all the tabs broke off. what do you think caused this?

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Post by ckutz1985 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:24 pm

how do i attatch a picture on here so i can show you guys?

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Post by Lavoy » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:57 pm

The reverser has been shifted without using the foot clutch first. Between this and not changing or maintaining oil level I would say has caused the lion's share of bad reversers out there.
I personally would not take a reverser out unless it was catastrophically destroyed, and even then I would still likely look for used parts.
I have the clutch discs on hand, check the rest of the reverser for damage, replace front and rear bearings and seals, put in new discs and you should be ready to go.
Properly operated and maintained reversers are pretty much trouble free.
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Post by ckutz1985 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:57 pm

how much would you sell me the clutch disc for?

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Post by Lavoy » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:22 am

Clutch discs are $80 each, I have one set on hand, and maybe one extra.
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Post by ckutz1985 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:23 am

So Is There No AfterMarket companies that make these clutches?

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Post by Lavoy » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:06 pm

Not that I know of at this time.
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Post by ckutz1985 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:36 pm

Would You Sell OnlyThe Shaft? how much are my internal reverser parts worth? everything else appears to be in good shape. I would probably like to sell them if I'm going to straight shaft it

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Post by ckutz1985 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:16 pm

I Would Also Be Interested In Trading For WhatI Need

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Post by steamfitter99 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:18 pm

The reverser is really a simple device quite ingenious. However the weakness was the tabs on the clutch disks getting sheared off. This was not only caused by shifting the reverser with out clutching but also by letting the pressure to engage the clutch pack to get too light and the clutch slip until it hits the tabs. The differential parts also has spider gears and each of these has a shaft and needle bearings. It also has a very specific procedure to follow for rebuilding the entire assembly. Get a manual and look it over and see if it is something you want to tackle. If the shafts are torn up or the bearings are smoked then the price went up substantially. If it is only clutch disks that is not too bad. If you have ever ran a crawler without a shuttle or a reverser you can get used to it. If you have a lot of work to do then it is almost required. If you need disks buy them from Lavoy. I do know this the disks are the same as the clutch pack JD used to engage rear PTO's on some of their tractors, the 1010 being one of these. I have taken the disks from some of these clutch packs and used them on the reverse side of the reverser. Tom.

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Post by ckutz1985 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:21 pm

i just got the longer shaft, coupling and spring i needed . i got it for a deal i could not say no to. i drilled my transmission so i could put my 3/16 roll pin through to secure my coupling today. the only thing i am not sure about is in the front of my reverser housing there is a circular plate that bolts on and on the inside of that plate there is a spot where my bearing on my old shaft would fit into that kept everything in place and centered in my reverser. well my new shaft which is the right john deere shaft i needed. does not have a step in it for me to install a bearing. is this right? was there no bearing on these shafts when they came from deere like this?

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