440 cid starter

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:51 pm

If you have a good starter for your diesel 440, take good care of it, they are getting hard to find.
Delco no longer has them. Wilson is the only one. I have found offering a rebuilt between $300-$400.
I got a bandaid on mine for now crossing my fingers .

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:50 pm

What does yours need?

Duke

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:20 pm

Duke, hopefully nothing now, I took the brushes and bendix out of another starter. It bench tested good.
It opened my eyes to the thought that if we cant get starters any more that it will put an end to these crawlers!
From what I can tell they were only used for the 440 and the 435 and no other application?

scampr · Post by **scampr** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:55 pm

Those were brand new brushes in that old one you got from me.. hope nothing happened to those..????

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:59 pm

There is a rebuilder by me that can work on them.

Duke

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:15 pm

scamper, yes I used your brushes and swapped the bendix drives.

townlineterry · Post by **townlineterry** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:36 am

Try this site, I've had good luck there. www.rareelectrical.com

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:46 am

Local shop here 80 - 150 to completely rebuild a Delco Remy 1108656.

Duke

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:24 am

Well I ended up ordering a '' rebuilt starter'' off ebay , the one I went through the bendix gear must be worn enough so that it doesnt engage the ring gear, every couple of tryes it grinds. I did replace the ring gear while the engine was out so I know its good.
Just for the heck of it I checked with Deere and they say its no longer available.

shinnery · Post by **shinnery** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:57 am

Another possible source could be that south american Deere 445 somebody found pictures of. If it used a jimmy 2-53 it may have used the same starters.
Bryce

whiteclipse16 · Post by **whiteclipse16** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:18 am

shinnery wrote:Another possible source could be that south american Deere 445 somebody found pictures of. If it used a jimmy 2-53 it may have used the same starters.
Bryce

*2 with what shinnery said.
Also, look for John Deere 435. That was the states tractor version that had the 2-53 in it.

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:01 am

Well hopefully this ebay special will work for me. I appreciate your in pout and encourage you to post any info you find about these starters. Hopefully it will help others with this problem.
I would hate to see these crawlers disappear just because they cant be started.

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:32 am

Hi,

You might find lots of good 2-53 parts off of a scrap 435. It wasn't the engines that killed them. It was the ring and pinion gears.

The 435 was made by taking a 430w and swapping in the 2-53 and making the PTO 1000 RPM. The idea was for it to be a haying tractor with the matching 1000 RPM baler.

But, too many folks used the diesel power for pulling, which prematurely wore the 430 ring and pinion. That was a costly fix, so lots were just parked in the back corner of a barn.

Stan

pop pop · Post by **pop pop** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:38 am

interesting info Stan, was the 420 ring/pinion the same?
the reason I ask is cause we had a 420 that we tried to pull the guts out of a few times, had fat,oversized fluid filled tires, but no gear problems.
the 420's were rare and never saw anything else(430,435) in the area where i grew up.

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:59 pm

Hi,

Yes, it was the same on the 420w and 430w as on the 435. The difference is the diesel could pull three bottoms pretty fast, and that would wear the gears also pretty fast.

Stan

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