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Post by Jalbanese » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:06 am

I need a few parts for my 440ICD, the water pump is weeping and I would like to get seals part no. 5121751, gasket part no. 5119282 and since I have it apart shaft with bearings part no. 904827, not sure if they are available, or do I need to take it apart and measure them and see what I can find?

Also my machine has the Cessna hydraulic pump and the coupling shaft is bad, I am looking for the coupling part no. T11751T and the shaft part no. T12189T,

Any suggestions would be appreciated

John

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Post by Lavoy » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:19 am

Detroit dealer should be able to get you the pump parts.
Shafts are all obsolete. I might have repair pieces, need to know which spline you have.
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Post by Jalbanese » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:54 pm

it is the Cessna pump, the part number is T12189T for the shaft and T11751T for the coupler, is there another way you would like a description, length or diameter, number of splines? And by Detroit dealer you mean a Detroit engine dealer?

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Post by Lavoy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:43 pm

Spline count and diameter is the easiest.
Yes, Detroit Diesel dealer.
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Post by Jalbanese » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:06 am

Lavoy, I appreciate all your help.

Short end , larger diameter of shaft 6 spline OD .732" (a lot of wear) I would guess originally around .750" estimaded
Long end smaller diameter of shaft 9 spline OD .614"

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Post by Jalbanese » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:07 am

need the coupler also

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Post by Lavoy » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:31 am

That one I would not have, they are hard to find, sorry.
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Post by Jalbanese » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:11 am

Any suggestions on where to find one? Or do you have a pump and parts to convert to the other style of pump?

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Post by uler3161 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:26 am

I'm having the same exact problem and I'm trying to adapt a pump. Haven't got all the parts yet, so I don't know if it will work, but here's what I went with for a pump:

http://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Ces ... 4441-D.axd

I apparently got the last one at surplus center, but I imagine it wouldn't be hard to find another.

Then I'm going to take these two and weld them together and maybe have to cut them down for length:

http://www.surpluscenter.com/Power-Tran ... 1-1495.axd
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Brands/Con ... 1563-C.axd

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Post by uler3161 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:31 am

After reading your post about the 6 spline, I wonder if I ordered the right coupler. Is the 6 spline on the engine or the pump? I could have swore both sides of mine were more than 6 splines. Don't have it handy right now to look at though.

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Post by uler3161 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:56 am

I tracked down the parts diagram and I think I see what it is. I didn't realize there was a shaft that had two splines. One end (I assume the 6t end) goes into the drive coupling (AT11426T). The other end goes into the coupling (T11751T). So I think I did order the right coupling, but I guess you need more parts than I do. It might be possible to do something similar to what I'm doing if you can find splined shafting.

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Post by Jalbanese » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:17 pm

I just need the shaft and coupler, if I have to I can weld and machine the shaft, not that I want to, but the coupler is more difficult to machine, I may end up putting a key or pin in that. While I search for parts, or convert to the other style

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Post by pop pop » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:54 am

there is a gear & spline shop here in phoenix that would love to crap out lots of these
440icd/602,,, 440icd/831/ripper, misc. 440 parts

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