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440IC Serial Number

Post by 1st440crawler » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:43 pm

Lavoy,
I purchased a 440IC the previous owner thought it was a 1962 model I have a John Deere Data Book that shows they quit building them March of 1960. The Serial # plate is missing. Do you know of any other way to identify this Crawler? It needs some TLC. It does have the 6 way hydralic blade on it. I think the dip stick is the wrong one for this engine as when I changed the oil it read way over full after only putting 4 1/2 quarts of oil in it, even after starting it to fill the oil filter. Another question is the tach shows it has 5 speeds and the shift knob shows 5 speeds but the shift quadrant only has 4 fwd and 1 reverse. Trans may have been replaced ?? I dont know any history of this machine before I bought it, I am going to try and get more info from the previous owner. Any help is greatly appreciated. I do need a carb kit and tach cable, If you have them how much are they??
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Have: 1959 440 Crawler w/ #64 Hyd. 6 way inside blade.
Have: 1954 70 Gas

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Post by Lavoy » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:28 am

We can narrow it down based on some of the parts. 440 was produced in 58-60.
I assume you have a gas engine, they should read 1 quart over full at 5 quarts of oil, this is correct. For what ever reason, they want you to be checking the oil with the engine running.
Carb it is $30, tach cable is $30 or $35, CRS kicked in just now.
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Re: 440IC Serial Number

Post by Tigerhaze » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:28 am

1st440crawler wrote:I dont know any history of this machine before I bought it, I am going to try and get more info from the previous owner. Any help is greatly appreciated.
This may be helpful for you-

http://www.johnnypopper.com/weirddeere/ ... nd435.html
(1) JD Straight 450 crawler dozer with manual outside blade; (2) JD 2010 diesel crawler loaders; (1) JD 2010 diesel dozer with hydraulic 6-way blade; (2) Model 50 backhoe attachments, misc. other construction equipment

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Post by JD440ICD2006 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:55 am

The 6 way hydraulic dozer that came on the 440 C is pretty rare to find. It is a Model 64.
As Lavoy stated, various parts will tell us what year it was produced.
The only problem can be that some of these have been changed out over the years.
The 1958 had the smaller trannys. They do not have a dip stick on the top left side. The 1959 and 1960 trannys are the bigger trannys and have a dip stick on the top left side. Your parts book will show the casting numbers for each.
The 1960 is the only one with the throttle in the center of the dash and it moves straight up and down, not swinging up the left side.
There are other parts that were changed through the models but to my knowledge these are the ones that stand out.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)

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Post by 1st440crawler » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:31 pm

Ok I think you guys have narrowed it down. I do have a Dip Stick on the top left side of the Tranny and my Throttle is on the left side of the dash, So I would think it is a 1959 ?? I do have a few photo's of it, I will have to read up on how to post them. I also think it has an automotive style muffler on it, It is oval but has a seam lip around both ends and that I think that would hold water ?? Will have to get the correct one before it causes problems. Do any of you go to the tractor show in Rollag MN ?? Lavoy, Do you have the correct new muffler in stock. I have been so busy with summer, doing the camping thing and working too many hours and have not taken the time to spend on my crawler but will soon. Fall is a better time for me to do things like that. I also found that my reverser is slipping a little in reverse. Is is suppose to lock in like a hand clutch would on say a B or 730 John Deere ?? It doesn't lock in either direction but does feel like there is a little more tension when in the forward position. I thank all of you for your help. This site and all of you will be a great help in getting my 440 back into shape. [/img]
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Have: 1954 70 Gas

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Post by JD440ICD2006 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:04 pm

Looks like it is a 1959.
The reverser is adjustable and it is HGHLY recommended to adjust it properly before using the crawler any more.
The service manual tells you exactly how to adjust it. It takes a little patience unless you have smaller hands than me. :lol:
The reverser is designed to "knuckle in" in either direction. There is NO neutral postion, it MUST be in either forward or reverse completely prior to releasing the clutch to move the crawler. Also, the crawler should be stopped completely PRIOR to shifting the reverser.
Post those pictures as soon as you can. One way is to post them on a free account with a host such as "Photobucket", then copy and paste the links in a message.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)

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Post by Lavoy » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:51 pm

I normally stock the standard and the silencer muffler.
Yes, reverser lever should "snap" just like the hand clutch on a Waterloo built tractor. It will be different due to the way the linkage is, but the concept is exactly the same.
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Post by 1st440crawler » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:07 pm

Just trying to post a pic and see if I have it down. Image
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Have: 1954 70 Gas

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Post by 1st440crawler » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:13 pm

Not sure if that was right or not. Let me know if it works. Lavoy I will be getting in touch with you on some parts soon. What is all included with the carb kit. I left the carb at work so I cannot remember what part was missing, I'm not sure it is either the choke plate or the throttle plate. CRS is hitting me too. Do you have a store at your place or parts yard that a guy could come and look at what you have to offer. I am always interested in looking into what is available and sometimes is easier to see it all in person.
Thanks again for a great site. I enjoy reading all the posts on the message board. Sometimes you learn from others questions too.
Buck
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Have: 1954 70 Gas

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Post by Lavoy » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:04 am

Buck,
I am no where near that fancy, but you are welcome to come over if you want.
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