looking for a crawler dozer (no loader)

andregrondin · Post by **andregrondin** » Wed May 25, 2011 8:04 am

Hi !

If anyone knows where to find a J-D 350-C-D or E for a reasonable price
with or without work to do on it , it is for private farm use .

Post by **Lavoy** » Wed May 25, 2011 9:39 am

I don't think they made dozers in D or E models, only loaders as far as I know.
Lavoy

JWB Contracting · Post by **JWB Contracting** » Wed May 25, 2011 7:48 pm

There are a few 450C's in ontatio if you look on Kijiji.

I have a potential customer offer me $9K for a real nice 450C here in Edmonton Alberta as there was one Ontatio for $9K and $10,500. I am holding firm at $12.5 so he was out of luck.

I bid a real nice 350C up to $16K last year at auction to put into my own personal collection and didn't get it. Decent 350's are getting very hard to find, you might need to go the 450 route.

andregrondin · Post by **andregrondin** » Thu May 26, 2011 6:17 am

Hi !

Thank you for the info !

Lavoy , as you can see I'm no expert at all in dozers !!

can you tell me if all the 1010 & 2010 dozers are gas powered ??

I might downsize my request instead of going for a 450 C ,
1010 & 2010 seems a good size for what we have to do !!!

as for parts are the 1010 & 2010 have easy availability ???

thank you for your help

Post by **Lavoy** » Thu May 26, 2011 8:34 am

1010 and 2010 are either gas or diesel. Parts availability for either are somewhat poor, but the 2010 is the hardest to find parts for.
Lavoy

andregrondin · Post by **andregrondin** » Thu May 26, 2011 9:36 am

Hi !

So what is my best bet !! 350 350C 420 440 ???

thank you for the help

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu May 26, 2011 11:26 am

Andre-

There is a big difference in size between a 420 and a 350. It would be helpful to know what type of farm tasks you want to do with it to give you a better recommendation. I tend to think you will need a larger dozer (350) if you are going to work it hard, and parts availability overall should be better.

JD440ICD2006 · Post by **JD440ICD2006** » Thu May 26, 2011 2:51 pm

350 series would do it if you need some real grunt. The dowside is that they are much heavier and cannot be hauled without a heavy rig.
The 440 has the most power of the pre 1961 JD dozers, can be hauled much easier, and will do a lot of work on a little fuel with a good operator. A gallon or so an hour is great with today's grossly high fuel prices.

andregrondin · Post by **andregrondin** » Thu May 26, 2011 5:04 pm

Hi !

yeah me again , I need to know if this model would be a straight 350 or else
the name plate gives me T4F3D serial 038883T. there is a nice 350 for sale in my area and it seems to be in a great shape , 5,656 hrs think it is a 1962.

I will post pics when I learn how !!!! (soon I guess)

my work would be to level some forest road for sugar house and also
fixing some of the dirt road on the farm like making some sloped embaquement , it won"t be mining work !!!lol !

thanks to all for your input it is very appreciated .

here are the pics :
tell me what you think !!!
there is a brand new hydro pump on it !!
radiator is very sound , all cylinder are fine ( only small leak on th smal tilt cylinder but nothing to worry about ) tarck a bit slack but the slack adjuster is working fine , the guy says it is a dry clutch for steering and the reverse lever is on the front dash .

KenP · Post by **KenP** » Fri May 27, 2011 4:12 am

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JD440ICD2006 · Post by **JD440ICD2006** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:02 am

As KenP says, you really need someone that knows (not the seller or one of his "buddies") to go over the undercarriage (and the rest of the drivetrain) to determine exactly what is there. If this is the U/C that has been on the crawler, then I also suspect other heavy wear issues elsewhere in the drivetrain.
Paint on these is one of my pet peeves. Someone has very obviously painted this 350 to make it "look" appealing. That will sell them to unsuspecting buyers, but it is not what you need to see when buying equipment, especially a crawler. You can see that they did not take great care as the serial tag is sloppy. This tells me that someone simply was eager to slap some yellow paint and decals on it. (the wrong decals I might add).
Paint is the very last thing you do to crawlers AFTER they have been properly rebuilt and restored. It is the first thing a seller will do to them.
Let me create a new phase, "Fresh paint is nice but it won't push anything".

andregrondin · Post by **andregrondin** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:10 am

Hi !

Thank you Ken , by the way I only know a very good dozer operator so to help me , the tracks are tired for sure but the sprocket and front wheel is
very well as the top idler .

can you elaborate on money pit with problems !!!
from what I've heard those motors are very tough !
( I do not have a lot of experience with dozer )
but from what I know this dozer seems in a very good shape !

The rad is in a very good shape , all the hydro hoses are well too , the motor run like a deere no smoke of any color whatsoever , running smooth at idle and run well at high speed , I drove it for a road and push test and all is fucntionning very well and tight no loose handle anywhere

is it easy to repair those tracks ?
are they expensive to buy ?

Any other items I should double check please ???

the guy is asking 8.5k for it as is !

thank you so much for all your input guy's this forum is really a PIT of knowledge and good people who want to help !!

Post by **Lavoy** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:38 am

For that kind of money, he better be able to tell you a lot about what has been done to it. I sold my straight 350 for a little more than that, no new paint, but all new undercarraige, steering clutches, blade all rebuilt, radiator and isolator work, and some other stuff I am sure I forgot. The one you show is pretty, but I would rather have a crawler that I know the history.
The engine would be the last of my worries, I would look at drivetrain, steering clutches, bottom rollers, reverser and such.
Lavoy

andregrondin · Post by **andregrondin** » Fri May 27, 2011 8:03 am

Hi !

Thank you Lavoy , but from what he told me there is a new
hydro pump , and all loosse handle had been fixed , like I wrote
the idlers look very good the sprocket is very good too .

what should I look for on drivetrain , reverser steering clutch ! is there any sign that I should look at ? I can ask and look but I have to know what I'm looking and asking for please .

I will have the dozer seen by a very experienced operator and a good mecanics , but I'd like to have a couple of hint on how to check if steering clutch are working properly ( from what I tried they seems fine cause
at any speed the tracks are blocking properly and rapidly I don't feel any
slipping ) .

thank you again for the help .

Post by **Lavoy** » Fri May 27, 2011 9:12 am

Ask him what other work has been done other than hyd pump. Hoses and small parts like that don't really count.
Lavoy

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