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Sandblasting Cabinet

Post by bent » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:15 am

I have been longing for a sandblasting cabinet. The one I want is the TP Tool 960. Problem is although they are only listed at $1,399 with virtually free shipping in the US, I got a quote for $599 shipping to where I am. Also, at the border I will get drilled again for I'm guessing another $500 in non-sense charges.

This will put me up to $2,600 plus exchange, likely $2,800.

My question is - is it worth having? I have used a friends a bit and yeah I like it but do I need it? Would I do more because I have it?

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Post by Lavoy » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:32 pm

Not sure which one mine is, I thought it was a 960, but not sure. I use it a lot, you will love, that is all I can say. Worst case scenario, ship it here and come down and get it.
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Post by JWB Contracting » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:23 pm

Try Manus Abrasives in Edmonton, Alberta. They manufacture them and have used ones for sale from time to time.

You want a good quality one with a dust collection system. Their cheaper systems are around 7,500 new but they often have good used ones for under 3,000.

Ours was lost in a fire in January and my dad bought a cheap used replacement that we should have set up in a month or so. I may buy a better one once I find out how well it works.

We used it primarily to clean clutch parts and often clean up clutch discs for reuse. Does a great job on the rest of the parts as well. Key is dry air, clean glass beds and no oil in the cabinet. I wouldn't go without one after having on.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:18 am

I agree, I used a buddies to clean most of the parts when I redid my dozer. So much better than a wire wheel.
The major thing that's held me back from getting my own is that you must have a good compressor to run one. One of those small Craftsman jobs won't do it and a good compressor is pretty pricey.

Also as stated, the dust collect/ vacuum is a must.
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sandblast cabinet

Post by 1954cooter » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:24 pm

I built my own cabinet a few years ago and use it regularly.I bent up some 16ga sheet metal and bought some internal parts from TP and haven't looked back.For the dust collection, I used an old house dryer fan/motor and vented it outside.I've got my own sheet metal brake,shear and spot welder so things went a little easier.I've still got the card board patterns I made if anybody wants measurements etc.

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Post by whiteclipse16 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:28 am

Hey cooter, could you PM me the measurements of the one you built.

I did kick that idea around and was going to buy the vacuum from TP but your idea sounds good too.
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Post by 1954cooter » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:02 pm

I just got a hip replacement last week so I'm not very mobile yet.Will try to get out to the shop next week and get measurements and maybe a couple of pics.Once you use your cabinet, especially for restoration work, you'll wonder how you got along with out it.

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Post by johnwesley » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:59 am

I also built my own cabinet several years ago. I used two sheets of 3/4 in. plywood. Basically a rectangale box with with the top half of the front sloped back at an angle with a piece of plexiglass inserted for viewing. The bottom is basically an inverted pyramid for the media. all of this was coated inside with epoxy paint The gun is a suction blasting set I bought from Tractor Supply. I used a heater vent blower motor and vacumn cleaner bag for dust collection. The base was made from 1" angle iron. The only costs I had was the plywood,suction blaster setup hinges & door latch and the blasting gloves I bought from NAPA. The rest I had laying around. This works very well for small to medium sized parts, anything else I use my pressure blaster.
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Post by 1954cooter » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:58 pm

Haven't dared to venture to the shop yet but have been poking around on the web.I see a smaller unit for $210 US from Harbor Freight with free shipping (US).Not a bad looking unit for the money.It will cost a good part of that to build by the time you buy sheet metal,angle iron,glass,hinges,latches,gloves,pick-up tube & gun nozzle,paint,etc.Not sure how far your location from the US/CDN border but might be an idea for you.In our part of the country we have items shipped to a custom brokers warehouse(US side) and pay $3 a box when picking up and theres no duty just pay the provincial sales tax at CDN Customs.Also some similar units on fleabay.

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Post by Lavoy » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:49 am

TIP Tools sells kits for building you own cabinet, or individual parts. Not the cabinet pieces in the kit, just nozzle, hoses, gloves, etc.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:23 pm

I'd stay away from the Harbor Freight one unless you rig up a good dust collector setup. My dad bought the smaller one and it's so small that is dusts up very quickly and you can't see a thing.

What size compressor are you guys using to run these cabinets?

The TP Tools stuff is excellent quality IMO.
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Post by 440 iron popper » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:34 am

I bought one cabinet that is fairly good for 450$. It has everything, gloves different nozzles, light, etc It has ports to fit a dust collector system. I installed an old shop vac vaccum cleaner on it. It sends dust outside the garage and you can see what you're doing in there. You can do an home made dust collection bucket.

It needs 100 cfm at 90 psi. I had a 20 gal, 2 hp compressor... It was about to melt at every parts needed to be sandblasted! I bought a 80 gal, 5 hp, 119 cfm at 175 psi. That's the way to go with this cabinet.

As nozzle wears out, more cfm is needed. In my opinion,the start point when shopping for a compressor is the max cfm needed, then you buy the one a little bit higher. It depends on the budget vs how often you need such an amount of air. Realizing that the compressor you just bought won't do the job is not a good feeling. A friend of mine could tell...
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