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oldtanker
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Wrong color but a good lesson:

Post by oldtanker » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:26 pm

My main tractor is a 1206 Farmall diesel (362 CI engine). I feed cows and blow snow with it the winter. It normally starts OK in cold, right down to about -10. This year it's been giving me trouble which I blamed the weather for. I live about 90 miles south east of Lavoy so you should know from his posts how cold it's been. I needed it about a week ago and had to put the charger on it set to boost. It was +10. I got it going but still had problems. So when I was done working I checked the batteries (2 6 volt in series). Tested bad. Got to thinking about it and I got this tractor about 4 1/2 years ago. Still had the batteries that were in it. Put new batteries in it and the next day at -8 it fired right up without being plugged in with only a little snort from the either assist. So lesson learned, besides making sure everything is clean tight and bright make darn sure the batteries are good.

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Post by Tigerhaze » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:14 pm

The other thing about batteries is that their ability to hold and provide a charge is greatly affected by temperature- anything you can do to keep them warmer at all from the surrounding environment (i.e. garage, shelter, blanket) will ultimately help with that issue.
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Post by Stan Disbrow » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:09 pm

Hi,

Yep. Chemistry slows down as the temperature drops. In this case, the chemistry that moves electrons around. And, at the same time as when everything stiffens up and requires *more* of those electrons to move.

Not a good situation, for sure.

Stan
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Post by oldtanker » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:03 pm

Tigerhaze wrote:The other thing about batteries is that their ability to hold and provide a charge is greatly affected by temperature- anything you can do to keep them warmer at all from the surrounding environment (i.e. garage, shelter, blanket) will ultimately help with that issue.

LOL if I only had shelter for it! Maybe next year. A nice 30x50, 14 foot side walls, insulated and heated! Big enough to keep the tractor in and still have room to work on something else.

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Post by Tigerhaze » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:40 am

I am actually looking at getting one of those portable garages for my outdoor equipment- they are basically a tent but much more heavy duty. Northern Tool and Harbor Freight both have the 10 x 20s for between $200 and $300. While they won't prevent the ambient temperature from dropping they can keep the wind from making it worse, and it should be easier to warm the machinery back up with a propane heater, assuming it doesn't melt the garage material.
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Post by Ray III » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:37 am

Keeping the machine in a slightly warmer place would increase engine life as well. Engine wear increases greatly with reduced temperature due to poor oil circulation and incorrectly fitting parts from thermal contraction.

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