It's coming together, part II things you'll find....
It's coming together, part II things you'll find....
I thought I'd throw in things I've found and you might also. One side was full of water in the clutch housing. A small amount in the finals but no damage there.
If you find a roller or front idler that's loose, Might be shaft/bearing wear??
How about the steering clutch quill....rusty, dirty, stuck tube??
Then get inside... the grease is old and drying it needs cleaning and a relube of parts.
I still hadn't driven the old rusted up tube out yet....this is rebuilt with a new tube and installed. I actually didn't use the one in the photo as I had 2 in much better condition.
Then there's the steering linkage...needs cleaning and relube..maybe replace worn joint too.. again, I didn't use this one as I had better ones with no wear.
Brake rod boots shot..I found these at the parts house. The nipple is an old one I took in to size a replacement, shown only for reference size. Next photo shows the boot hose clamped on..
How about the reverser?? There's supposed to be a roll pin that holds a bearing washer just to the left of that bearing. A real SOB to get out!!!
Speaking of that bearing...I put a new seal in the nose of the reverser, this is what was under the housing, after driving in the new seal, when I picked it up... Another SOB to get that small bearing back out.
How about the brakes?? One band was rusted in two (water side) and this is the "good" one.. shown with a new one.
Steering clutches?? this was on the "water side"...
Picture of rear tranny case removed and being washed out...ever hear a clunk?? How about several??? There were 2 bolts still holding the ring gear
If you find a roller or front idler that's loose, Might be shaft/bearing wear??
How about the steering clutch quill....rusty, dirty, stuck tube??
Then get inside... the grease is old and drying it needs cleaning and a relube of parts.
I still hadn't driven the old rusted up tube out yet....this is rebuilt with a new tube and installed. I actually didn't use the one in the photo as I had 2 in much better condition.
Then there's the steering linkage...needs cleaning and relube..maybe replace worn joint too.. again, I didn't use this one as I had better ones with no wear.
Brake rod boots shot..I found these at the parts house. The nipple is an old one I took in to size a replacement, shown only for reference size. Next photo shows the boot hose clamped on..
How about the reverser?? There's supposed to be a roll pin that holds a bearing washer just to the left of that bearing. A real SOB to get out!!!
Speaking of that bearing...I put a new seal in the nose of the reverser, this is what was under the housing, after driving in the new seal, when I picked it up... Another SOB to get that small bearing back out.
How about the brakes?? One band was rusted in two (water side) and this is the "good" one.. shown with a new one.
Steering clutches?? this was on the "water side"...
Picture of rear tranny case removed and being washed out...ever hear a clunk?? How about several??? There were 2 bolts still holding the ring gear
There's ooops!! And then there's Aw Sh*t
The photo is oops. I saw it, I knew it was there, I forgot about it. A broken bolt in the foot rest mounting hole. I had to drill it out and retap the hole. There was also one on the other side I really didn't see. A bolt end broken off in the hole several threads deep. Also drill/tap out.
The Aw Sh*t?? It was little piece of junk in a hole. Nothing to worry about, just dirt or small rock , like in the many other places dirt collects and I've stuck a pick into and blown out, get it when I have the air on....NOT...some butt head broke a tap off and left it in there for me to remove!!
The photo is oops. I saw it, I knew it was there, I forgot about it. A broken bolt in the foot rest mounting hole. I had to drill it out and retap the hole. There was also one on the other side I really didn't see. A bolt end broken off in the hole several threads deep. Also drill/tap out.
The Aw Sh*t?? It was little piece of junk in a hole. Nothing to worry about, just dirt or small rock , like in the many other places dirt collects and I've stuck a pick into and blown out, get it when I have the air on....NOT...some butt head broke a tap off and left it in there for me to remove!!
I'm sorry, but I have neither brand or part. I asked, but they said just a brake part they keep on hand for master cyl or hyd control repair. It looks like the boot on a joy stick.jtrichard wrote:what was the brand and part number of the brake rod boots thanks Richard
I took a nipple from the clutch housing and a brake rod and handed them to the parts guy and told him what I needed. This is what he came up with from his parts bin. It's an independent tractor repair/parts co, not like NAPA or someone who keeps stock numbers. They just order out of a generic catalog of parts.
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Never miss a good chance to screw up....
While assembling things, all the pipe plugs I needed to remove were perfect. They came out easily. Well, I did not check the ones I had no need to remove. I should have, as stated in the first line.
I put the first final on and things were going well. I put the second final "almost on" and there was a bind. It seemes the brake band was slightly cocked and would not slide into place even with my biggest hammer, which wouldn't fit in that small hole anyway.
No problem, just pull that bottom plug and slide it over. Riiiiiiight...... Said plug was one I hadn't removed. Murphy just stopped by.
After nearly rounding the hole, I ground the end of a large bolt to fit in the recess and welded it on....twisted the bolt off....welded a very large nut over the stub....twisted it off again.... got a piece of 1" pipe and welded it on over the whole mess. Persistance pays... It held...I had to use a 24" pipe wrench and a 3' cheater but the dirty rusty bugger came out.
One small pry with a screw driver and the brake band went into place
Quit here?? Not a chance...what about the other plug. Why wait until I really needed it out. Old Murphy had not left the building Since I had all the tools at hand I went at it again but with much quicker sucess. Only twisted one off.
If you're doing something like I'm doing, REMOVE every plug and bolt while it's on the table and easy to get at. Even if it's not needed right now.
Oh yes, it really helps if you're laying on your back under a tractor to have an 7 mo old Lab pup decide you're down there to play or your leg looks like a chew toy...
While assembling things, all the pipe plugs I needed to remove were perfect. They came out easily. Well, I did not check the ones I had no need to remove. I should have, as stated in the first line.
I put the first final on and things were going well. I put the second final "almost on" and there was a bind. It seemes the brake band was slightly cocked and would not slide into place even with my biggest hammer, which wouldn't fit in that small hole anyway.
No problem, just pull that bottom plug and slide it over. Riiiiiiight...... Said plug was one I hadn't removed. Murphy just stopped by.
After nearly rounding the hole, I ground the end of a large bolt to fit in the recess and welded it on....twisted the bolt off....welded a very large nut over the stub....twisted it off again.... got a piece of 1" pipe and welded it on over the whole mess. Persistance pays... It held...I had to use a 24" pipe wrench and a 3' cheater but the dirty rusty bugger came out.
One small pry with a screw driver and the brake band went into place
Quit here?? Not a chance...what about the other plug. Why wait until I really needed it out. Old Murphy had not left the building Since I had all the tools at hand I went at it again but with much quicker sucess. Only twisted one off.
If you're doing something like I'm doing, REMOVE every plug and bolt while it's on the table and easy to get at. Even if it's not needed right now.
Oh yes, it really helps if you're laying on your back under a tractor to have an 7 mo old Lab pup decide you're down there to play or your leg looks like a chew toy...
As I was handling the gas tank I heard something slide inside. My first thought was, oh no, rust flakes. I put a good light in there and the inside looked like new!! I shook the tank around and slid what ever to the opening....A perfect and very clean, heavy weed branch with arms It took 10 minutes to jiggle it around so that I could get it out without breaking it.
I didn't photo it but I still might. Now, I will either have to put it in the tool box or find another gas guage
I didn't photo it but I still might. Now, I will either have to put it in the tool box or find another gas guage
The problems that you don't think about when planning the rebuild.
This was a phase I crawler and it had the 2 bolt side frames. I decided to upgrade to a later 4 bolt side frame and eliminate possible problems.
This is where "things pop up".
I had perfect pedals, sand blasted and painted and ready to go on. They were different than the phase II center section. I had to get pedals that matched and they were quite worn and I had to do some work on them. Brake pedal return spring, different
I was putting the center section into the side frames..wouldn't go. The foot rests are different. I had to grind out room for the side plate.
I was going to use the 2 good brake rods I had that weren't bent or damaged. I noticed that they were different lengths.
I still have to put the belly pan on....again, different. I will remove some metal and redrill a couple of holes and it will work fine.
This was a phase I crawler and it had the 2 bolt side frames. I decided to upgrade to a later 4 bolt side frame and eliminate possible problems.
This is where "things pop up".
I had perfect pedals, sand blasted and painted and ready to go on. They were different than the phase II center section. I had to get pedals that matched and they were quite worn and I had to do some work on them. Brake pedal return spring, different
I was putting the center section into the side frames..wouldn't go. The foot rests are different. I had to grind out room for the side plate.
I was going to use the 2 good brake rods I had that weren't bent or damaged. I noticed that they were different lengths.
I still have to put the belly pan on....again, different. I will remove some metal and redrill a couple of holes and it will work fine.
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