440 ICD restoration

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Post by Stan Disbrow » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:52 am

Hi,

Yes, one box on the right side. One on the left seems to me like it would be a pain when it comes to getting on and off the machine.

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Post by johndeere4402-53 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:29 pm

Its my dozer i just makeing it how i want it

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Post by Stan Disbrow » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:58 pm

johndeere4402-53 wrote:Its my dozer i just makeing it how i want it
Hi,

Of course, make it how you want it. I was just adding my thoughts since you asked our opinions on the toolboxes a couple days ago....

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Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)

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Post by johndeere4402-53 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:52 pm

Stan Disbrow wrote:
johndeere4402-53 wrote:Its my dozer i just makeing it how i want it
Hi,

Of course, make it how you want it. I was just adding my thoughts since you asked our opinions on the toolboxes a couple days ago....

Stan
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Post by johndeere4402-53 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:41 pm

I need to buy or make a air shut off if anybody knows where to get one.

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Post by Lavoy » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:07 am

Factory Detroit ones are around used, but won't fit real well on the crawler, you will really have to butcher the hood and change the air cleaner tubing.
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Post by gus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:10 am

Would a blast gate from a dust collecting system work?

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Post by johndeere4402-53 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:47 pm

Thanks not sure what where doing with it yet

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Post by Lavoy » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:43 pm

Maybe I misunderstood, I assumed you meant the runaway valve like used on other applications that used Detroit's? Deere never used these on the crawlers or wheel tractors, so anything you find will have to be a cobble job.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:29 am

Look around on ebay. I've saw a decent amount of 2-53 blowers on there that were from marine engines I think. They all had the air shutoff on them.
As Lavoy said, not sure how much modification you'll have to do to get it to fit under the hood though.

You could always take the approach that my grandpa used to. Put the crawler in high gear and bury the blade in the dirt :shock:
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Post by johndeere4402-53 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:36 pm

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Post by pop pop » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:41 am

assuming you want an engine shut-off method,
rather than a air dam, why not a fuel rail lever to kill the fuel.
i think that was originally on some machines,???
(unless you loose a blower seal),
then, if you "fit" the intake cap so that in a pinch,
you can reach fwd and slam it down.
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Post by whiteclipse16 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:53 am

pop pop, the 440ICD is designed to be primarily shut down via the fuel rail shut-off. However I know my grandpa had issues with ours, it would start to run away and shutting the fuel off wouldn't help. He'd bury the blade in the dirt to kill it.
I can see why an air shut off would be nice.
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Post by pop pop » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:21 am

yes they can be persnicketty devils, and always have kept in mind the chance of runaway.
govenor and linkage adjustments works wonders for alot of the questionable machines.
but i agree, an air dam would add peace of mind.
one of my current 1,739 projects is working on the gov. pump and linkages and while i am standing next to it doing that i have controlled/throttled the air with a small salsa can.
a deadkill butterfly in the intake shouldn't be too hard to do.
hmmm, project #1,740 ? :idea:
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Post by johndeere4402-53 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:43 pm

we thought of a butterfly maybe if i find a spare tube but as of now where going to leave the cap loose so in case of emergency you can pull it off and snuff it out

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