450C battery hook up question

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philztoy
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450C battery hook up question

Post by philztoy » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:20 pm

My 450 C has two batteries. Some one removed all the cables. It looks like there are two grounds and as I recall two of the batteries were hooked together. I think there is only one wire to the starter. Can anyone advise how to hook up the battery cables so I can try and get her started?

I just bought new batteries...but my usual method of hooking the new ones up like the old ones has been undermined.

Any help would be appreciated.

The tractor has been parked on a slight incline nose up. Is that enough to make it lose it's prime. Last time I tried to start her she wouldn
t stay running.

Thanks

Phil

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Post by philztoy » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:53 pm

that makes sense thank you

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Battery Hook Up

Post by clarence » Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:02 pm

Gentlemen,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but I think those batteries should be hooked up in a "series"--at least my 450 is setup that way. Positive cable to the positive on battery one; battery one negative to battery two positive and then battery two negative to negative ground.

Clarence

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Post by pdmech08 » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:37 am

To my knowledge all 450's were 12V systems. Most I've come across usually only have one 12V car battery in them. Clarence....You may want to double check your connections again, and if they are in fact wired in series, you may want to check your starter and charging system to see if it really is a 24V system. If it is, it must have been an option or a foreign build. Steve.

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Post by OneWelder » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:49 pm

I do not think Clarence is referring to a series circuit - if I read post correctly you would both end up with 12 volts
A lot of them had two hot cables off of the disconnect switch 2 two grounds
others used two connector cables & one ground as well as one hot
so long as it ends up being positive to positive , neg to neg - it will be 12 volts

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Post by philztoy » Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:20 pm

I hooked it up positive to postive to starter and two negative grounds and got her running. I think it is a 12 volt system.

Thanks again for the answers to the questions :)

Phil

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Post by pdmech08 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:11 am

the way Clarence has it........"battery one negative to battery two positive and then battery two negative to negative ground." would be considered a series circuit. As I see it battery #1 neg to Battery #2 pos. would give you a series circuit and therefore 24V. Anytime you have pos. to neg. you create a series circuit (or a short). I am also familiar with the 2 pos. cables to the master switch. Steve.

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Post by joeturner1977 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:44 am

Is it possible that he might be using two 6-volt batteries in series????
-Joe
1958 420c w/mc60 blade

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Post by pdmech08 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:13 pm

That is very possible. Once again I assumed. I should know better by now. Steve.

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