Please look and help me identify..... 450 motor

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Please look and help me identify..... 450 motor

Post by JD-thomas » Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:17 pm

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Well here are some pics of the motor out of my 450 french machine still unable to figure out the year, but I had to pull the motor it has a crack in it from lack of antifreeze. Does anyone know if this is a 4-219 or what it might be. The tag on the side saysType: M53L6 Series:096721CD Please help....
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Post by JD430C » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:01 pm

Hello, the lack of a oil cooler on the oil filter base leads me to believe its a 202. All the 219s I have seen have had the oil cooler.

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M-53

Post by JD-thomas » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:42 am

What size motor is a M-53 or is it a creature all by itself?? I have seen it online some and the guy with the 450g with stuck motor in a previous post said his was a m-53. Thanks
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Post by digitup2 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:33 pm

That is an old Mannheim Block and you will need the bore and stroke if nothing else is known I take it that is what the M is fore before the number .The rest of the 5306 I am not sure about .Digitup.

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Post by JD-thomas » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:41 am

Thanks Dititup, so my next ? will a 4-219 or 4-239 bolt rite in??? Or is it a creature of its own. I have found a 4-219 with a turbo and its reasonable but wanna make sure I can use it... Mother Deere has no answers with serial numbers... Thanks for any help!!
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Post by digitup2 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:15 pm

It should fit right in a hole for a 4-219 or 4-239.A turbo depending on what exhaust manifold was used may be a small problem though .Digitup.

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Post by JD-thomas » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:26 am

Thanks that sounds good!
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What engine?

Post by pjaf » Sun May 02, 2010 5:22 pm

Not all 4-219 had oil coolers, my 450b didn't. I put a 4-039 in my 450b out of a air compressor. The 2 problems I had where the power steering pump is in the way of the water lines for the oil cooler and the front pulley didn't bolt up to the hydraulic pump. Everything else interchanged.

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Post by Nisse » Fri May 07, 2010 4:41 pm

I had the same engine in my 400A Backhoe sold in Sweden. At the moment I am restoring a 4.219 engine to replace it (cracked block as well, but because of too much force). The M53 seems to be exactly the same as a 4.202. I think the only diference might be the injection pump? Here in Europe most of these engines seem to have the CAV or Rototdiesel pump (even on the 4.219)

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