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450 steering clutchs

Post by jimmiediesel24 » Wed May 12, 2010 4:19 pm

i bought a 450 john deere has dry clutchs. i am getting them out to replace or repair, someone has told me that after i get them replaced to put ATF in the secton where they go and make wet clutchs out of them. Any one done this or heard of this being done??? thanks.
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Post by Lavoy » Wed May 12, 2010 7:32 pm

If you make them wet clutches, you make them ruined clutches. Never put any sort of petroleum product on a friction material unless it is specifically designed for it.
Let me guess, they guy that told you to do it sells steering clutches for a living? :lol:
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Post by mini kahuna » Thu May 13, 2010 5:42 pm

yikes,that would be a expensive mistake,please don't dump oil down that hole.....that gives me goosebumps just thinking about it!!!! :shock:

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Post by jimmiediesel24 » Thu May 13, 2010 7:54 pm

thanks. good to know.
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Post by jimmiediesel24 » Tue May 18, 2010 5:30 pm

Which clutch disc are better? Fiber or metallic? Are the metallic worth the exta money????
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Post by digitup2 » Tue May 18, 2010 6:35 pm

The person that told you that putting oil in a dry chaimber was a idea is dumber than dirt it's self!!.The big difference between metalic and fiber clutches is the fiber clutches don't grab as agressively and metalic will shed some but very little more oil.I would recomend fiber based clutches my self..Digitup.

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Post by Tigerhaze » Wed May 19, 2010 11:45 am

jimmiediesel24 wrote:Which clutch disc are better? Fiber or metallic? Are the metallic worth the exta money????
Here is a more detailed discussion on the subject that Lavoy and Digitup2 were involved in:

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... t=metallic
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Post by MattE » Thu May 20, 2010 10:38 am

Here's a question.... What is the difference between a wet clutch disk and one of the sintered bronze "heavy duty" disks. They look very similar between the b's and c models. Obviously you would trash your brake band. But I have taken finals off that the bronze disks were smeared with oil and the crawler still turned reasonably well.

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Post by Lavoy » Thu May 20, 2010 2:08 pm

Probably no real way to tell, but the part numbers are different.
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