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PTO shift lever

Post by stew1944 » Tue May 15, 2018 10:09 am

My 350B has the PTO shift lever, but no PTO shaft. Did they come with the lever installed on all of them? Or did some prior owner removed the shaft for some reason?
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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Stan Disbrow » Tue May 15, 2018 12:24 pm

Hi,

Shaft is removable, so maybe someone kept it. The thing was an option, as was the winch drive. The PTO option provides for a lever to engage and disengage a sliding gear. The winch option doesn't sport a sliding gear and so, no lever.

It was optional to order either internal drive without the accompanying shaft. This also gets you a reverse gear in the transmission with a reverser. Without either internal shaft, there is no reverse in the trans. You need the trans reverse when operating either the PTO or winch because the reverser needs to be kept in forward else the output shaft be reversed. That'd be bad when using either item....

The PTO rear shaft slips in and out of the hole in the trans rear cover without having to pull the rear cover. The winch rear shaft requires the cover to come off to install or remove it.

I just went through the research on this as my new-to-me 350C came with the short winch shaft out the back. The first thing I noticed was an R for the trans with a reverser. But, no PTO lever. Didn't take long to spot the winch drive. But, the winch is no longer there. Not that I want one, anyway. I thought the winch drive still had a lever. Nope. A quick look in the parts catalog showed what went with what.

Now I need to find the cover for the winch drive so nothing gets wrapped up back there. Or, pull the trans cover and remove the shaft. Sounds like more work than finding, or even making, a stub shaft cover.....

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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by stew1944 » Wed May 16, 2018 9:38 am

Thank you for the information, Stan. You have answered my question. I really have no use for a PTO shaft on this dozer. I have the farm tractors for that.

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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Stan Disbrow » Wed May 16, 2018 3:15 pm

Hi,

Unless, you have a spot with lots of little trees. They will hack with a bush hog, but leave sharp little stumplets to poke at your tires. Enter the crawler with PTO. No worries there! Even if you have no 3 pt, use a trailing attachment to the drawbar. :)

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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Don2018 » Sun May 27, 2018 6:32 pm

Hey Stan what is this "trailing attachement" you spoke of. I would like the option to hook up a bush hog to the back of my 350.
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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Stan Disbrow » Sun May 27, 2018 6:48 pm

Hi,

It is a long arm on the brush hog similar to what a farm wagon has instead of the 3pt hitch mounts. Usually with a split driveshaft with a carrier bearing on a post right near where it hooks onto the drawbar. You still need the PTO shaft on the machine, of course. Only bad part is when making a tight turn you need to stop the thing so it doesn't mess up the driveshaft. But, it does work when there is no 3pt on a crawler but you do have a PTO.

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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Don2018 » Wed May 30, 2018 11:15 am

stan
Can you point me to a website where I could get a look at one of these attachments? I'm still confused.
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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by B Town » Wed May 30, 2018 12:10 pm

Stan's trailing attachment comment is simply a different way to describe or explain a pull-type piece of equipment using the drawbar, drawbar pin and implement tongue/trailing attachment.

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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Lavoy » Wed May 30, 2018 12:27 pm

Pull behind vs mounted if that helps any.
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Re: PTO shift lever

Post by Stan Disbrow » Thu May 31, 2018 6:45 am

Hi,

Sorry. I should have said 'pull type' instead of 'trailing'. And, I probably ought to have said 'attachment scheme' rather than just 'attachment'. I call things which hang onto tractors Implements but some folks call them Attachments. I use the term attachment as to just how things get hooked up.....

I also ought not to call it a brush hog given that Bush Hog is a maker name and is really close!

The current nomenclature is Pull Type Rotary Cutter. There are several makers besides Bush Hog. Mine was a Howse. Other names that come readily to mind are Land Pride, King Cutter, Woods and Frontier.

Stan
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Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside manual blade
Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside manual blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Also Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)

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