My 450b steering clutch expierence

[CrawlerEd]

Hey y'all.

I found this site doing some research on my 450b and the issue I was having and got a lot of good info pretty easily. I figured I would share my progress on doing steering clutches so that it might help someone as these posts helped me. I'm by no means an expert but I can turn a wrench pretty good so taking this on was a no brainier for me.

First, a short history on me and my machine. It's Monday as I'm writing this. I bought the machine exactly 6 days ago. It's a 450b with a 6way blade. Haven't pulled serial yet though I probably should have. Found the service manual online for free so I've used that as well to guide me through this. Hour meter shows 730 right now and it's still ticking. (Taking it at face value) however machine fires up with almost no smoke in about half a second on the button. Last service was at 564 hours in 2002 <--not a typo. Needed a couple hydraulic hoses and a fluid/filter change and I thought I'd be good to go.Got everything all changed out and decided to figure out how it works. Started doing some work pushing up brush and small trees and all of a sudden I couldn't turn left anymore. Immediately freaked out and thought I trashed the machine. Did some digging on the Internet and this site and found the adjustment procedure. Performed it once with no result. Decided to go a little tighter just to make sure and still nothing. I accepted my fate and got her limped to back of garage to start the tear down. Pictures to follow.

[77 Ford]

Welcome to the boards. You've just experienced your first level of the love hate relation that old crawlers bring....

Currently I love my loader (it's been sitting most of the winter), I'm about to pull the injection pump to have it rebuilt and I'm pretty sure I'll be hating on it along the way....

Good luck!

[Stan Disbrow]

Hi,

Yup. We love 'em when they go, hate it when they don't.

Stan

[jtrichard]

HI ED and welcome IF you have not seen this yet, here is what you are in for

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more posts on the subject are great just REMEMBER we LOVE pics lots of them

[NWJD fan]

There must be an established ratio of hours used to days fixed that defines happiness or satisfaction or some delusional variation there of.
I look at the 350C 6 way dozer with cracked steering clutch housing and asst stripped fasteners and think about how nice it manoeuvres in the bush and the great job it does building trail with the mini excavator.
The 350 straight loader with dozer and backhoe has moved a small mountain of dirt and a large one of snow and dug several miles of waterline in the 24 years I've owned it. Oh yeah, needs steering clutches, brakes and a reverser rebuild.
The 450C outside dozer is the mega pusher of the bunch and makes me feel fairly omnipotent as various obstacles yield before me. So far it mostly just runs and I give a small prayer of thanks for that every time.

[CrawlerEd]

http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/Ed_Re ... g%20Clutch

Let's see if that works. Pics are still uploading but hopefully we finish soon.

[CrawlerEd]

So the steering clutches are done. Overall it was terrible but not the worst thing I've ever worked on. Got back out there and got some work done and of course another failure. Injection pump... Decided to tackle this myself as well. Not many pics of this Job but I'll post em after the others finish uploading. I pulled the timing cover on pump and little black peices everywhere. Found a shop about an hour away with all the parts in stock including the special tools.
$145 out the door. Compared to 725 for a rebuilt or 4 to 5 for him to do it.

Now to my problem. I lined up the timing marks before I pulled pump. Didn't rotate engine any after they were lined up. Now as I go to reinstall pump with marks lined up the driveshaft isn't correctly lined up with rotor. It's less than 1/4 turn off. Do I just turn rotor and line it up and hope for best or did I miss something??

[CrawlerEd]

So the steering clutches are done. Overall it was terrible but not the worst thing I've ever worked on. Got back out there and got some work done and of course another failure. Injection pump... Decided to tackle this myself as well. Not many pics of this Job but I'll post em after the others finish uploading. I pulled the timing cover on pump and little black peices everywhere. Found a shop about an hour away with all the parts in stock including the special tools.
$145 out the door. Compared to 725 for a rebuilt or 4 to 5 for him to do it.

Now to my problem. I lined up the timing marks before I pulled pump. Didn't rotate engine any after they were lined up. Now as I go to reinstall pump with marks lined up the driveshaft isn't correctly lined up with rotor. It's less than 1/4 turn off. Do I just turn rotor and line it up and hope for best or did I miss something??