Diference btwn 450E and 450G?

[gimpycrawler]

Is there someplace I can go to see a side by side comparison between the two?

Also, where can I buy used Grousers and buy boxes of new Grouser bolts for my 450E?

Thanks in advance.

[Tigerhaze]

Is there someplace I can go to see a side by side comparison between the two?.

I can't answer that directly (although you could look at the spec sheets on the murphy Tractor website), but these threads also discuss differences.

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... light=450e

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... light=450e

[gimpycrawler]

Tigerhaze,

Thank you. I got what I needed. Much appreciated.

[johnjast]

Is there someplace I can go to see a side by side comparison between the two?

Also, where can I buy used Grousers and buy boxes of new Grouser bolts for my 450E?

Thanks in advance.

i am at the price quote step of re-grousing a 455G
3 best places have found follow, only 4ncorp will bevel,
my criteria is strictly price, i dont really know how to gauge hardness
by the way, do you know if i can use a light weigt lincoln 100 mig welder with flux core wire?

www.4ncorp.com 814-676-4477 Phone
www.fordsteel.com
www.dura-tuff.com

[NWJD fan]

I welded grouser stock on my 350 loader pads with a Lincoln SP175 wire feeder and .035 flux core wire and it worked well. A 100 amp welder might be iffy but try a few and see. Might have to preheat a little or just rent a bigger welder for a day or 2.

[johnjast]

@NWJD fan
thanks for your reply.

And sorry to all for taking this stream off topic, I am new to all this.

[CuttingEdge]

Welder by trade...

If you know of a large metal fabrication shop you might be able to get the quality control guy to come out and test the hardness of the steel. It is done by using a sort of hydraulic press onto the steel and measuring the indentation it makes. The harder the steel, the less of an indentation. Its called the Rockwell Test, though the Brinell test is another method. Still I think its not warranted.

There are many ways to harden steel, but hard surfacing rod is probably the best way on tracks. I actually used to enjoy doing so in an fabrication shop where they would rebuild cranes every year. It cost them about 1 million dollars to rebuild a crane, but a new one was 2 million, so you can do the math. The tracks got a lot of hard surfacing done. We used to do it with just stick welding as it was considered better, but then switched to wire feed because it was so much faster.

Hard surfacing is different then other welding and it runs like crap so welds look awful so don't be scared, its not you. And with the steel being inherently dirty, it does not help either, but hard surfacing really makes a difference.

[gimpycrawler]

Still wish I could find a good source for replacement grousers. I'm missing almost a dozen. Also need a few boxes of the bolts.

[CuttingEdge]

You have not tried Vtrack, which is a valuepart subsidiary? They have track shoes listed for John Deere 450E's on their website. That was where my track shoes came from on my dozer although it was through a local after market parts place, but you could call their toll free number and get advice I am sure. They were cheap too, far cheaper then welding on grouser bars...in both time and money in my opinion.

http://www.constructionundercarriage.co ... riage.html

[gimpycrawler]

Thank you. Checking them out as we speak.