450C steering is not tight

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:13 pm

Update...I did notice that when I pull either steering lever, the brake is stuck in the "engaged" mode and doesn't move all, almost like they are seized on the brake mode..I pulled rops off now removing fuel tank and battery compartment and hydraulics

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:56 pm

I made some progress in taking stuff apart. Looks like my brake linings are good. I have about 3/16" lining on each side. My theory on what I think happened....The machine is new to me (2 weeks), I have no contact with previous owner, so can't pick his brain about any maintenance. Brake levers were stuck all the way down near steering housing, as if brakes were being applied and also where the steering levers are. So when I pull back on steering lever, there is no change in braking, its not moving at all because bushing where steering lever is is seized on both. Im guessing it hadnt been used in a while and the PO used it, brakes locked up and then they used the brake steering band adjustment nut to loosen up brake bands and not have any steering..thats my theory?? So other than having some milky oil is this normal?
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jtrichard · Post by **jtrichard** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:20 pm

WATER in fluid CHANGE IT

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:34 pm

jtrichard wrote:WATER in fluid CHANGE IT

Yes, where does the water come in from? Thru top plate when it rains? Can I put J20A equivalent in there?

B Town · Post by **B Town** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:32 am

Now would be the time to decide if you want to do a common sump conversion. I believe you are correct in your theory. Non-use is a terrible thing on a machine, people included. Bruce

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:56 am

What are the benefits to doing a common sump conversion? What are the consequences if I leave it the same? Is there another thread describing the conversion..from what I looked up, it seems confusing to do

jtrichard · Post by **jtrichard** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:37 am

IM sure you would have to tear down to do the drilling to make it common sump just change it and seal the top very well

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:43 pm

What fluid is recommended besides hygard? Can I use the traveler that tsc sells? It's recommended for jd20a

Stan Disbrow · Post by **Stan Disbrow** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:34 pm

Hi,

JD 303 is the older hyd fluid it used before HyGard replaced 303.

Stan

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:41 pm

Im going to goo ahead and use traveller premium trans/hydraulic fluid..it says it replaces jd hygard and 303

jtrichard · Post by **jtrichard** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:13 pm

traveller premium trans/hydraulic fluid SHOULD BE FINE

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:13 pm

Thanks! Do you happen to know what size the drain plugs are for the steering clutch housing..I thought it was a 3/8" ratchet head, but I'm wrong..I ended up pumping all fluids out, but I still want to free up drain plug..also brakes were way too loose, I got them to engage by tightening actuator..Is this the right way, I'm pretty sure my clutch levers are adjusted properly..I figured I get them snug, but free enough for drum to spin, then I can drive and adjust from the outside plug????

jtrichard · Post by **jtrichard** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:57 pm

If square then most likely 1/2" ....As for adjustment all I can say is follow the book to a "T"

DrLoch · Post by **DrLoch** » Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:30 am

jtrichard wrote: ....As for adjustment all I can say is follow the book to a "T"

Agreed...

StxRancher · Post by **StxRancher** » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:53 am

It's an Allen head, maybe they are not original

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