staight 350 doesn't move
- gregjo1948
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staight 350 doesn't move
I just bought a 350 with a running engine but, the dozer doesn't try to move forward or back. I bought it sight unseen and I'm going on what the seller is saying. He got the dozer when he bought a farm and it has been parked in the barn for 5 years. Said it fired up and ran fine but won't move. Said it's not making any grinding, clunking, squealing, or any other strange noises. Both steering clutches frozen released??? Reverser problem??? Pump??? What's your guess and where do I start looking to fix?
Thanks, gregjo1948
Thanks, gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
- Stan Disbrow
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
Hi,
If it has a reverser, I would look at the isolator first.
Stan
If it has a reverser, I would look at the isolator first.
Stan
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Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Re: staight 350 doesn't move
is their oil in the reverser no oil no move !!!!
- gregjo1948
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
I think that may be it. On my 350B, the isolator sounds like someone hammering on the flywheel. I think the seller would have said something about that noise if it was present. I'll be picking the machine up today and might have a better idea what's wrong with it. I'll post what I determine.Stan Disbrow wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2017 4:42 amHi,
If it has a reverser, I would look at the isolator first.
Stan
gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
- gregjo1948
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
UPDATE.... Got the machine in the shop and checked reverser for fluid.(within lines on dip stick) At about 3/4 throttle,(trans. in gear) shifting reverser from forward to reverse, it doesn't move but, I can hear a change in the engine briefly. I think the change might be fluid direction changing. Guess I'll have to pull the engine and get into the reverser. What do you think I'll find????? Thanks, gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
Re: staight 350 doesn't move
sounds like the drive coupling is gone still need to dismantle to repair done that on my 350 !!
- gregjo1948
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
What drive coupling are you referring to? You mean the isolator?
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
Think hes referring to the coupler between the reverser and transmission. I have seen them strip out.
Andrew
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
Yes coupler between trans and reverser had one go on my 350 a few years back . jim
- gregjo1948
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
When it was gave out, would it make any noise when you tried to move forward or back? Mine doesn't sound like anything is happening when I engage the reverser in either direction. I would expect some sort of nasty noise from a stripped spline. gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
Re: staight 350 doesn't move
you have to pull it apart no matter what is the problem no other way to check it !!
JIM
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- Stan Disbrow
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
Hi,
The isolators usually make a racket when they go, and the coupler is usually quiet. But, of course, not always.....
You will just have to take it apart from the front to the rear, I am afraid....
Stan
The isolators usually make a racket when they go, and the coupler is usually quiet. But, of course, not always.....
You will just have to take it apart from the front to the rear, I am afraid....
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
- gregjo1948
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
Don't be afraid Stan!! I'll operate on it soon and it will live to push dirt again. gregjo1948Stan Disbrow wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2017 5:55 amHi,
The isolators usually make a racket when they go, and the coupler is usually quiet. But, of course, not always.....
You will just have to take it apart from the front to the rear, I am afraid....
Stan
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
- gregjo1948
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Re: staight 350 doesn't move
With the engine removed, can I remove the reverser guts without removing the housing? gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
Re: staight 350 doesn't move
No, you will need access from the rear.
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