another 450 question
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another 450 question
hi all, got my 450s home yesterday. was wondering if the late Bs came with wet steering clutches. i searched jdparts.com but didnt see anything on the wet clutches. i was told the 450 with 6way was a B, but it has wet clutches so could it be a B or is it a C? serial number tag is missing.
thanks
andrew
thanks
andrew
jds- 450B, 450C, 550, 4020, 3140 MFWD, 5200 MFWD
I think someone on here previously had stated that there were a very few (late serial number) B's that had wet clutches- but since I don't know that for sure I won't swear to it.
I'll try to find the post that stated it- it may have been on another crawler site I go to so it may take me a little bit to find it.
I'll try to find the post that stated it- it may have been on another crawler site I go to so it may take me a little bit to find it.
It didn't take me nearly as long as I thought- Digitup was the poster that stated it. I have provided a link to the two relevant threads below:
http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... t+clutches
http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... 31&start=0
Digitup is really knowledgeable about those 450s; you may want to ask him directly.
http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... t+clutches
http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... 31&start=0
Digitup is really knowledgeable about those 450s; you may want to ask him directly.
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hi, i had a jd friend come over, and he told me it had a turbo. we took the rest of the motor apart cause he needed the crank, and the bearings had june of 74 stamped on them. there is no tag on the motor or the crawler. the loader crawler has a 219 with the turbo and i just bought another 219 with turbo. digitup, u sure they put 239s in them? my friend has worked on these for years and has several books on them and he said they didnt use the 239s in them.
andrew
andrew
jds- 450B, 450C, 550, 4020, 3140 MFWD, 5200 MFWD
I met up with the Deere industrial sales man of that time and asked him about the wet clutch Bs and he said that all of them went north and all were 4-219 s. The reason for the switch over was that Cat went wet earlier that year and Deere was loosing sales big time in the north where sealed dry clutches were taking a winter s#@t kicking .Deere had this technology earlier and was loosing to Cat after 85% of the market share to loose footing now would be a disaster so they used the early 450C transmission and rear ends but finished with the 4-219s for power plants.He said that there was only a small amount made and he sold two of them[and he sold a lot of those dozer's in South Western Ontario]He always referred to our dozer as the last B he sold I have asked him to get on line with us as he would be a good information source .The wet clutches were also installed early in the Deere skidders as well before model change occurred.I know the cold weather plays hell on dry clutches and housings with condensation on them .Digitup.
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