350B Coolant Temp Gauge
- 670johndeere
- 40C crawler
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:25 pm
- Location: Grafton WV
350B Coolant Temp Gauge
I just noticed recently that when I turn the key "on" that my coolant temp gauge goes to the hotter side of the gauge reading, and when in operation it seems to stay there. The gauge is one of the older styles. I checked all the connections and they seem ok. I'm just not sure if it is a gauge problem or temp sender problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dale
Diehard John Deere Man
- Stan Disbrow
- 350 crawler
- Posts: 2898
- Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:13 pm
- Location: Raleigh, NC
Hi,
Bad sender or a shorted wire. Most senders work by supplying voltage to the gauge, thru the gauge and into the sender.
When cold, the resistance is high, and the current flow thru the gauge is low and so it will have little deflection - reading on the cold side.
As the engine warms, the sender lowers its resistance, causing more current to flow thru the gauge which causes a greater delfection - reading normal. The hotter the coolant, the lower the resistance and the higher the reading.
If you're getting a hot reading from cold, then the sender has failed in the short direction, hence the hot reading from the get-go.
They can also fail in the open direction, in which case they never do read from cold at all.
Now, it might be a shorted wire as well. Easy to tell, just pop the connector off the sender and see if the gauge still reads pegged hot or not. If you pull the connection, and the gauge drops to cold, then reconnect it and it goes back to hot, then install a new sender. If it stays pegged hot, then you need to eyeball the wiring from the gauge to the sender to find the short. Hope it's a bad sender, as that'll be easier to deal with.
Stan
Bad sender or a shorted wire. Most senders work by supplying voltage to the gauge, thru the gauge and into the sender.
When cold, the resistance is high, and the current flow thru the gauge is low and so it will have little deflection - reading on the cold side.
As the engine warms, the sender lowers its resistance, causing more current to flow thru the gauge which causes a greater delfection - reading normal. The hotter the coolant, the lower the resistance and the higher the reading.
If you're getting a hot reading from cold, then the sender has failed in the short direction, hence the hot reading from the get-go.
They can also fail in the open direction, in which case they never do read from cold at all.
Now, it might be a shorted wire as well. Easy to tell, just pop the connector off the sender and see if the gauge still reads pegged hot or not. If you pull the connection, and the gauge drops to cold, then reconnect it and it goes back to hot, then install a new sender. If it stays pegged hot, then you need to eyeball the wiring from the gauge to the sender to find the short. Hope it's a bad sender, as that'll be easier to deal with.
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
- 670johndeere
- 40C crawler
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:25 pm
- Location: Grafton WV
- 670johndeere
- 40C crawler
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:25 pm
- Location: Grafton WV
- Stan Disbrow
- 350 crawler
- Posts: 2898
- Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:13 pm
- Location: Raleigh, NC
Hi,
Gald it was that easy. Wiring harness shorts can sometimes be a bear to track down.
Ironically, I had the temperature sender in my old daily driver car (90 Ford LTD Wagon) go out on the way home on Friday, so I also had to change out a sender this weekend.
Later!
Stan
Gald it was that easy. Wiring harness shorts can sometimes be a bear to track down.
Ironically, I had the temperature sender in my old daily driver car (90 Ford LTD Wagon) go out on the way home on Friday, so I also had to change out a sender this weekend.
Later!
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Pat and 107 guests