dry verses lubed chains

[jdcook]

Is the only difference the noise level or does one last longer? If it is just the noise level I think maybe I should save the money and go with the dry for a Farm loader.

Thanks Dave

[NNAATZ]

my understanding is that sealed and lubed chains will last much more longer than dry, i dont know how much. i guess the price will show it too. i think you will have to concider the hours that are going to be put on it, loaders are harder on rails and rollers also.
i dont know the cost of ether, but i think a dry chain will do the job.

[digitup2]

If you aren't putting big hours or working in rough conditions then the old unsealed track is just fine .If you want toget resale on a newer machine than sealed and lubed is the way to go .If you can listen to it there is not that much difference in the sound of sealed after listening to the machine for several hours on the old Deeres any way .It is no big difference if you can live with it .Digitup.

[jdcook]

one of the sales reps I got a qoute with said Lubed is just quieter does not really last longer, and another sales rep told me lubed prevents internal wear and lasts much longer???

Dave

[Tigerhaze]

Hi Dave-

My understanding (from the literature) is that the second rep you talked to has a good point about internal wear; however I would trust Digitup's actual experience as he has run many types of these crawlers commercially for years.

See my response to your other post about your undercarriage for more information about what I have read in the literature.

[digitup2]

I only purchace the new Deere track with that sprayed on metal it realy works we average 1500 to 2000 extra hours on a set of tracks But if I was refitting an older Deere then I would consider hours of intended use and cost of the tracks as many do with older machines .You have to justify dollars spent if you are intending to put 1500 hours on this machine then look for the best tracks if your pockets are that deep .Don't buy the absolute cheapest like this Chinese or Japanese stuff it is metric built and will argue with you and your crawler for as long as you run it .Too many people sell track and undercarage parts that are JUNK .Buy from some one that has a good reputation or even see if they have ever put track on a unit like yours and went back to the man to see how he liked it.I crunch crawler undercarage daily and see them all from the salesman that can't put his mouth where my money is to the Repair man that is too lazy to turn those rollers around the right way so you can check the lube later .I run 7 crawlers under 100hp and tracks are the big issue only beating out the price of fuel these days .I guess what I am saying is there isn't anything out there that someone can't make cheaper and living with garbage tracks is no fun .Digitup.

[OneWelder]

My experience with salt tracks is- If the machine sets for periods of time you will get some seals that leak.
When you get them turned the seals can prove to be quite expensive.
Some machine models seem to really benefit from salt tracks others do not
A lot of track shops do not lubricate properly when replacing or turning
pins & bushing

[digitup2]

I have only done four P.B.Ts on S.A.L.Tracks [Don't you just hate abreviations ]And I didn't think much of the out come They don't have lube and they don't last long enough to pay for the P.B.T. just get new tracks instaled and get it over for shure .When the pins have been turned they go all to h@## in a hurry.We had a one operater on a 550H that had good hours after the turnover 1700. So 1 out of 4 was worth it !.I see looking at the reports others averaged around 880 hours .Digitup.

[jdcook]

Hey,

Can some one tell me what P.B.Ts, and S.A.L. tracks are?

Thanks

Dave

[digitup2]

A P.B.T is a pin and bushing turn and a S.A.L.T is a sealed and lubed track . just turms that dozer heads use I guess .Digitup.

[shinnery]

My best guess would be P.B.T is Pin and Bushing Turned procedure. and S.A.L. Tracks could be Sealed All Links Tracks. I can think of other definitions but they might not be printable in a family oriented thread.
Bryce

[digitup2]

There are sealed tracks that aren't lubed .Don't ask me why but there are such things out there .sealed and lubed are the way to go if you are going to put more than 2000 hours on the crawler less than that and go to dry unsealed tracks there cheaper I don't know how much becouse I never purchase such tracks but they are out there .Digitup.