450c fuel filter - hard starting below 30 degrees

[remley]

I have a 82 450c that needs a fuel filterchange,it's crawler loader and the bucket is down. My problem is I can't reach in with all of the boom parts in the way to get to the filter,especially the bleed screw.Any and all help will be great.

Problem #2- Are all 450c's hard to start incold weather? I need to use either when the temp. is below 30 and right now with the temps. in the single digits it's a lost cause. It's sits outside at my farm but is covered up very well with a tarp. Please help.

[DBCSteve]

Problem #2- Are all 450c's hard to start incold weather? I need to use either when the temp. is below 30 and right now with the temps. in the single digits it's a lost cause. It's sits outside at my farm but is covered up very well with a tarp. Please help.

My 450C was hard to start during a cold spell a few weeks ago. Cranked it a couple of times for 10-15 seconds to warm up the cylinders, and it finally started. I vowed to use the built-in starting fluid adapter next time, but after looking at it I found out that the line from the adapter to the intake manifold was broken. Another thing to fix....

[KenP]

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[JWB Contracting]

Just a few tips on starting in cold weather.

1. Make sure you have two batteries installed, makes a huge difference.
2. Run some winter fuel in it if available.
3. Install a block heater.
4. Make sure you step the cluch petal all the way to the floor, this activates the dry cluch.
5. Don't be afraid of using either, deere engines can handle it. Use good quality like Kleen Flo, i beleive it has a lubicant in it.

We at times need to start our 450C loader cats and when plugged in never need to give them either. If you have a good block heater installed the snow will even melt off the hood if it is not to cood. We usually get a week or two of minus 30-35 below celuis up here in Edmonton. After minus 20-25 they don't start well even with either when they are not plugged in. I can't stress enought how important and in expensive a block heater is on these machines, very easy starts and no dissapointment if they don't.

When nothing else will run, our 450C's will. We have 5 450C's in total, 3 loaders and 2 dozer in our fleet

[tjdub]

I have a 82 450c that needs a fuel filterchange,it's crawler loader and the bucket is down. My problem is I can't reach in with all of the boom parts in the way to get to the filter,especially the bleed screw.Any and all help will be great.

Problem #2- Are all 450c's hard to start incold weather? I need to use either when the temp. is below 30 and right now with the temps. in the single digits it's a lost cause. It's sits outside at my farm but is covered up very well with a tarp. Please help.

Could you pop the hood off for access?

As for hard starting, my 450 straight needs a shot of either when it's below 30F. You just have to be careful using ether this way since the air-cleaner is taking out all of the lubricant in the spray unlike when you use the built-in ether manifold (if equipped). If you load it up with ether, it will wreck the engine. I give it a little puff before I start cranking and that's just enough go get a couple of pops. Then I crank for a little while longer and it usually goes on it's own, if not I repeat with another little puff.

If you usually park it near an electrical outlet, install a block heater. Even a magnet oil pan heater, or dipstick heater would help a lot.

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