coolant heater for 450c

remley · Post by **remley** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:12 am

I like to thank everyone for the help on my last two questions.
I want to go the coolant heater route,but I want to buy an aftermarket model(Deere dealer wants $179.00 for a deere,but it's probably not a Deere product) If anyone has a heater installed on a 450c crawler loader would be kind enough to reply with the make and or part number.
Thanks for the help again!

Post by **Lavoy** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:54 am

Just go to any automotive parts store and ask for a tank heater. I would suggest 1000 watts unless you are in a really cold area and need faster warmup.
Lavoy

Paul Buhler · Post by **Paul Buhler** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:23 pm

Here's one that I used to use when I had a 450c and 440 skidder. It is durable and fairly easy to install.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... sku=174050

I ultimately replaced this with a set of female quick connect fittings with long hoses on my trucks and male connects on the equipment since I could warm up the equipment on the woods landing. Drive up, connect, let the truck run, do chores and then start the equipment. The swap of fluid cooled the truck, but warmed the equipment blocks. After one machine was running I'd move on to the second and repeat. I also made female to female hoses so that my bunching tractor could stay in the woods and be heated with the skidder. I carried the coiled hoses on the skidder.

Paul

440 iron popper · Post by **440 iron popper** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:07 pm

You can go on the Kim Hotstart web site too. TPS model is a good one. 1000W, 120V is enough as Lavoy says.That's what I'm going to install on my 440.

Post by **Lavoy** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:10 am

Just an FYI, but I do have a block heater that you can put in a 440, assuming you mean gas. Faster than a tank heater, and only 400 watts.
Lavoy

440 iron popper · Post by **440 iron popper** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:14 pm

Lavoy wrote:Just an FYI, but I do have a block heater that you can put in a 440, assuming you mean gas. Faster than a tank heater, and only 400 watts.
Lavoy

Lavoy,

Yes it is a gas engine. Is it an in-block heater that you can press into a frost plug hole?

Francois.

Post by **Lavoy** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:01 am

Yes, goes in the freeze plug behind the carb.
Lavoy

digitup2 · Post by **digitup2** » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:44 pm

That would be a better heater it would use 40% of the wattage and lose a lot less heat heating the block .I have several of these and hook a generator to the backhoe motors when not near a 110 volt outlet although they are Cat motors but a in block heater is very efficent heater .Digitup.

440 iron popper · Post by **440 iron popper** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:16 pm

digitup2 wrote:That would be a better heater it would use 40% of the wattage and lose a lot less heat heating the block .I have several of these and hook a generator to the backhoe motors when not near a 110 volt outlet although they are Cat motors but a in block heater is very efficent heater .Digitup.

You are right. No heat loss outside the block with this kind of heater. I agree, Cat engines don't need that

hehehehe. I don't like to mess with frost plugs... usually I work with engines with cooling system that contain 2-300 liters of coolant that's why... But in a 2 cylinders that's not the end of the world to drain and refill when the heater gives up.

Lavoy how much for this heater ?

Post by **Lavoy** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:55 pm

I have not got any in a while, but seems to me $35 give or take.
Lavoy

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