350b clutch spring

[jfischer]

Can anyone tell me the JD part number for the 6 inch spring that prevents the clutch from remaining in the down or depressed position?

Thanking you,
Jim

[Tigerhaze]

Hi Jim-

I haven't had time to look, but you can look at the parts manual yourself at the following link:

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com. ... ervlet_Alt

Just search for "350b".

[jtrichard]

t13986 with reverser ....... t14010 with out reverser

[KenP]

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[JWB Contracting]

I have two gas 350's one with an inside and one with an outside mount dozer which do not have a reverser. We thought they were rare so they went into the collection.

We also have a 450 dozer that does not have a powershift HLR. The clutch must be fully depressed to shift the HLR.

One other strange option that we have seen is narrow side boxes (battery and hydrualic tank). The battery side is just wide enought for the battery.

Does anyone have any info on this. I guess i had better take some pics and start my own thread.

[Tigerhaze]

One other strange option that we have seen is narrow side boxes (battery and hydrualic tank). The battery side is just wide enought for the battery.

Does anyone have any info on this. I guess i had better take some pics and start my own thread.

Hi Jason- There has been a number of discussions on here about the European JD crawlers- wonder if maybe your 450 is one of those. There also have been discussions on how JD would customize the base models for specific customers or applications.

[jdemaris]

I thought all 350B's had a reverser.... no?

Nope. The reverser was an option until the 350C came out. Then all machines HAD to have a reverser to power the new wet steering clutches. They ran off the reverser hydraulic pump. At some point after that, Deere started leaving reverse out of all the gear transmissions. Most of the earlier machine with optional reversers also had the gear reverse in the transmission that allowed you to be in both reverses and go forward.

[KenP]

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[Lavoy]

Narrow battery boxes are a serial number issue, shows it in the manual I am pretty sure.
I have seen, had, or known of mulitple 350's without reverser, but all straights, no clue on B's.
Lavoy

[jdemaris]

Narrow battery boxes are a serial number issue, shows it in the manual I am pretty sure.
I have seen, had, or known of mulitple 350's without reverser, but all straights, no clue on B's.
Lavoy

I have a 350B here with no reverser and the "logger special" package. That consists of a winch and a 6 way mechanical blade. Only has hydraulics for up and down. The tilt and angle are done by hand and it's locked in place with wedges. I got this from the original owner who bought it new.

That being said, I have a late Deere 350B sales brochure that shows the hydraulic direction reverser as "standard equipment." So, it seems the change was made during the 350B run and not when it first came out.

This same brochure shows the gear transmission as having reverse and I've seen some late Bs without it. So, I guess Deere made changes along the way during production of the B and not all showed up in sales literature.

[CatD8RII]

Firstly, welcome back to the forums John, have'nt seen you in a while.
Secondly according to the parts book B's definitley could be had with a reverser or without. There is also 2 reverse speed gears listed in the transmission itself, one with reverse and one without. No clue what was standard equipment or not. I could'nt imagine they would sell a loader without the reverser, what a pain that would be to run

[jdemaris]

Secondly according to the parts book B's definitley could be had with a reverser or without.

I have an early brochure for the 350B that shows the reverser as "optional."

I also have a later brochure for the 350B that shows the gear transmission with NO reverser as "optional."

So it was available either way, just a swap of what was standard and what was optional.

[KenP]

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[jdemaris]

As John said in another post, you can't say "all" or "none"...

I know I've gotten in trouble many times using those words.

In regard to the 1010s and 350s, I like having the gear reverse. Too bad they removed it with the late B and C 350 series. The hydraulic reverser is weaker in reverse then it is in forward, so it's nice to have the option of a gear reverse when pulling hard.

The 1010s and earlier 350s are the weakest in hydraulic reverse. The B and newer got beefed up and many of the upgrade parts got back-fitted into older 350s. NOT in 1010s though, and also not in the earliest 350s with spring-loaded drive-disks on the flywheel.

[LeonardL]

Well, I wasn't going to throw my dog in this but what the heck, I'll tell what I know.
When Deere came out with the B series we met with the John Deere sales reps in Moline. Deere was wanting to make a name for themselves in the construction equipment business. It was about this same time period when they came out with their first Motor Graders.
So as these brochures came out it was explained to us that they were generalizations and were for reference only. Deere wanted to become customer oriented and they would sit down with individual customers and try to build what they wanted. Thus a lot of variations of the same machine came out. As they put it, "We consider everything to be an option" They still do this to a great extent and is part of what has made them so great.
That's what I know and I'll be quiet now.