John Deere 450B Brake lining removal

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John Deere 450B Brake lining removal

Post by harvesthill » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:24 pm

Is there anyone out there that has ever removed bonded material off brake bands? Mine do not have rivets and want to put new lining material and rivets on.
Thanks in advance,
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repair v rebuild

Post by Jack-the-Ripper » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:33 am

John,

During my 450B clutch overhaul I chose to replace the brake shoes with professionally rebuilt which were readily accessible and unusually cheap. I got them from Norcan (as I recall), a used (and new) tractor parts supplier in Spokane, WA

On a steep hill, your brakes could save your life. Unless you are an exceptionally good mechanic with brake relining experience, DIY may be a risk you don't need to take.

Obviously the adhesive is meant to hold well under all conditions, (and we can probably assume the linings have asbestos in them) so the rebuilders may have an enclosed machine that grinds off the old linings and adhesive (or some really nasty solvent).

So it seems like there's lots more challenges to confront in the clutch/brake housing without relining your own brakes, too.

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Post by Tigerhaze » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:54 am

There are a number of threads you can search for on this board where members relined their own brakes shoes, complete with photos. if you find those threads, you could contact those members and see how they removed the residual old brake material.
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Post by Paul Buhler » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:01 pm

Red Dirt did a nice job. Scroll through until you reach the brake banding portion. He might have some ideas on removing the adhesives.
http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... g&start=15
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Post by Tigerhaze » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:32 pm

That's one I was thinking about- appears he wire brushed the old material off. If original shoes I would be somewhat concerned about asbestos dust so be careful.
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Post by jtrichard » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:41 pm

red dirt has a 2010 and 2010 had riveted lining from factory.... crawler 123 did his on a 450B it was bonded he went to riveted look for his posts
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Brake Lining

Post by harvesthill » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:41 pm

Thanks Guys, got them off today. They didnt't take much to pry them off. Nothing a hammer and Chisel wouldn't cure.

Thanks again

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Optimum solution.

Post by Jack-the-Ripper » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:27 am

Its amazing sometimes how, after all the high end engineering and analysis, the hammer and chisel proves to be the optimum solution. Sometimes the only thing that bests it is a bigger hammer and bigger chisel. :wink:
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