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kedorland
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Questions regarding a 450CA

Post by kedorland » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:33 pm

To All:

I stumbled into a Model # 450CA...serial # 200158T today (March 18th).

A very clean straight and underused machine. First owner was the Iowa DNR. Second owner is the dealership.

Found it in a back lot of a dealership and they knew little to nothing regarding the machine.

Hour meter appears to be working and is at 1511 hrs.

Is a loader machine with winch and log arch.

Does the "A" in the model number = "Arch"?

Am I reading the past posts regarding serial numbers, and date of manufacture, as this being a "1974" and with dry clutches?

Eager for any, and all, input.

Thank you all in advance.

Kevin From Iowa.
1975 450C. 1977 450CA loader, with winch and log arch. Is true..tracked equipment is addicting.

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Post by Scottyb » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:25 pm

Kevin, I believe that the A stands for loader. B,C,D, all are models with the three different dozer types and, E is for a draw bar tractor.
I doubt it will have dry clutches, I think the C version was when Deere went to wet clutches.
I assume it has a rops?
Is in your yard yet?

Scott
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350`s c-loader + ripper, b-loader with winch arch. B-loader with dozer pads
backhoe attachment.
1010 loader with forks for round bales
a few 610 Bobcats. many attachments

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Post by digitup2 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:11 pm

Send photo s of this machine as the A was a European version with the Mannheim motor and a French build machine also had a side fuel tank and operator seat was closer to the back of crawler .Just wondering if that is what the machine is several have been found on this site !!.Digitup.

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Post by kedorland » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:27 pm

They don't have a clue what they have. I went to look at an excavator and could see the top of the EROPS of the 450 standing up over some other machines. I finally escorted the salesman to the very back of the lot and it is sitting with a dozen or so dead and burnt out skid-loaders.

All of the gauges are intact. No play or slop in the linkage. Metal is straight.

Has lights, loader, winch, drawbar, log-arch, ROPS, a good seat and arm rests.

Drawbar isn't egged out either

They were unsure of the date of manufacture...one time it was a "1978" and another a "1975"...mentioned to them "I'd find out and let them know"....:)

I knew it looked like our other 450 (only better)...but was/am very unsure of the clutches.

I'll strive to gather some pics before weeks end.

Tag does say "Dubuque"

Kevin from Iowa.
1975 450C. 1977 450CA loader, with winch and log arch. Is true..tracked equipment is addicting.

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Post by Scottyb » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:00 am

I found this information from my 450b Loader papers.


THE JD450-B CRAWLER TRACTOR ENGINE DISPLACEMENT IS 219 CUBIC.
BASIC TRACTOR SERIAL NUMBER( this is information from my 450b)

1. DIGITS 1 THROUGH 4 DESIGNATE THE TRACTOR 450B - JD450-B
MODEL.

2. DIGIT 5 DESIGNATES THE TRACTOR TYPE, FUEL,AND TRANSMISSION.
A - LOADER
C - 6405 DOZER
D - 6410 DOZER
E - 6415 DOZER
J - DRAWBAR TRACTOR

3. DIGITS 6 THROUGH 11 DESIGNATE THE TRACTOR
SERIAL NUMBER

4. DIGITS 12 AND 13 DESIGNATE THE T - JOHN DEERE DUBUQUE WORKS
MANUFACTURER OF THE TRACTOR.

I compared it to 350b stuff and the 350 sheet showed...
A stood for Loader Gas
B stood for loader Diesel

I hope to see photos of the French made version but it could either one.
Scott
450`s c-dozer 6 way, b-loader.
350`s c-loader + ripper, b-loader with winch arch. B-loader with dozer pads
backhoe attachment.
1010 loader with forks for round bales
a few 610 Bobcats. many attachments

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Post by LeonardL » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:20 pm

Kevin,
I would check with the Iowa DNR as they will probably still have some information on this machine.
40 plus years working on JD 350s, 400Gs, 450s and other equipment both Ag and Construction.

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Post by kedorland » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:35 pm

It is in our yard now. A very tight machine and am thrilled with our latest find.

Pictures coming forthwith...when I figure out how to post them...:)

She's sexy.

Kevin from Iowa.
1975 450C. 1977 450CA loader, with winch and log arch. Is true..tracked equipment is addicting.

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