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JD450B undertray or ? hanging

Post by srshaw3 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:41 pm

Backing up my JD450B in dirt and it bogs.
I look underneath, and there is some component hanging, completely covered in dirt of course. Is it an under tray of some kind?

I have the technical manual, just hoping to have someone identify the likely component. Is there an under tray?

What is the best way to work on this? I don't know that I could fit under anyways, but the idea is definitely intimidating.
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Post by jtrichard » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:19 pm

get 2 railroad ties and run it up on them and then you can get under it and bolt the belly pan back on
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Post by Scottyb » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:34 pm

Hopefully you have not bent the belly pans. They are tough to straighten out. I had to park a crawler on one and use my skidsteer bucket to bend and beat it into shape. Went back on OK once I got the twist out of it.
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Post by srshaw3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:51 am

railroad ties sound like a plan, presuming I can find some, I suspect they are heavy, but a car trailer could carry a couple, right? I just need to get them on it.....

I suspect it is the belly pan(s), that would make sense to me, Perhaps chain them to a tree and drive away from it....?
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Post by 77 Ford » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:03 am

You'll need jacks to lift it, they are quite heavy. Just an FYI, I found mine loose, I never even hung it and I still needed a bottle jack just to raise it into position. My 450c uses 5/8 x 1 1/2" bolts to attach it to the frame.

If you have drove a large amount of dirt up between the pan and the frame / transmission you might want to consider a power washer to clean it out.
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Post by srshaw3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:32 am

Thanks, I don't have running water at the site, so a power washer probably isn't viable, unless they get my well in first :)

I will keep in mind the need for jacks to lift it up. Thank you for the bolt dimensions :)
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Post by Lavoy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:48 am

A gas engine power washer might draw water from a barrel or other container as long as you have it above the inlet of the washer.
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Post by srshaw3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:05 am

Thanks, a good thought, as I do have the power washer, I would just need to get the water there. At one point I was considering bringing water up in the truck, maybe I have a reason to do so now. Any thoughts on a cheap secure safe way of carrying water in the back of a pickup truck?

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Post by Lavoy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:22 am

A good clean 55 gallon drum will work. If it is something you plan on doing on a regular basis, a new plastic tank with some plumbing and a valve would work great. Then if you want to put a gas engine pump on there for other uses, you are ready to go.
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Post by srshaw3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:54 am

ok, thank you again.
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Post by Tigerhaze » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:03 am

srshaw3 wrote:Any thoughts on a cheap secure safe way of carrying water in the back of a pickup truck?

Thank you all for the good ideas!
They make 250 gallon poly stock tanks that fit over the wheel wells in a pickup bed- may be a little more cost but will better distribute the load over the bed of you want more water than a 55 gallon drum and can be plumbed to standard fittings/pumps/etc.
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Post by srshaw3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:21 am

Tigerhaze wrote:
srshaw3 wrote:Any thoughts on a cheap secure safe way of carrying water in the back of a pickup truck?

Thank you all for the good ideas!
They make 250 gallon poly stock tanks that fit over the wheel wells in a pickup bed- may be a little more cost but will better distribute the load over the bed of you want more water than a 55 gallon drum and can be plumbed to standard fittings/pumps/etc.
As my well will be drilled shortly, I am looking for a cheap or no cost fix here, thank you though :)
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Post by jtrichard » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:23 am

i dont know about where you are at but here on the west coast home depots have ties.. a couple of 6x6s 8' long with a 2x6x8 or 2 depends how much room you want ( or like some of us NEED :oops: ) nailed on top will do also
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Post by 77 Ford » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:34 am

Here you can go to the local ag stores ( the ones that sell liquid type fertilizer ) and pick up huge poly cubes. Mine is 4 feet cubed inside a metal cage and I paid 20 dollars for it. It even had a shut off valve on the bottom, I just had to buy a couple of reducers to get down from the 2" to a garden hose. You can move them empty by hand into your truck and fill them up.
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Post by srshaw3 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:36 am

77 Ford wrote:Here you can go to the local ag stores ( the ones that sell liquid type fertilizer ) and pick up huge poly cubes. Mine is 4 feet cubed inside a metal cage and I paid 20 dollars for it. It even had a shut off valve on the bottom, I just had to buy a couple of reducers to get down from the 2" to a garden hose. You can move them empty by hand into your truck and fill them up.
This is exactly what I am hoping for, great, thanks.
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