JD350B General Questions

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JD350B General Questions

Post by jthornton » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:13 pm

Is this the serial number (located below the seat)? If so it doesn't seem to match anything in the FAQ thread on serial numbers.

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What does this lever with the knob do?

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Post by Tigerhaze » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:23 pm

I can speak about the serial number plate, and that is generally would you would find it and it does appear to be for that crawler. Based on the FAQ the serial number you posted seems to indicate that you have an early 1965 Straight 350, not a 350B. One way to tell is the reverser shift lever- is it on the dash? If so it is a straight 350.

Is there something else that led you to believe you had a 350B? If it is stickers or a manual that came with it, they are not a good indicator as anyone can slap a sticker on these crawlers to try and get more money or have the wrong manual when they sell it. The good news for you is that other than age, there aren't a lot of significant differences between a straight 350 and a 350B. If anyone else thinks I am wrong on the serial number interpretation, let us know.

I can't speak positively to the lever as I don't own a 350, but I believe it may be a PTO disengagement lever. Others will have to confirm.

The other information (letters and numbers )ahead of the six digit number is information about the engine, whether you have a reverser, and whether you have a dozer or loader. Unfortunately one of our former members decided to remove all of his previous posts and I believe one of them had the "decoder ring" for those letters and numbers. Since I don't have a 350 manual one of the other members would have to post up.

FYI, the potential misunderstanding about the serial number and model series may also explain why your book is not matching up with the parts for your hydraulic adjuster.
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Post by Scottyb » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:02 pm

tiger is correct, that lever is for the PTO. as well the lever wraps around the transmission dipstick knob, just in case you missed that. Unscrew it, and check the oil level when it is in the hole but not threaded in tight.
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Post by jthornton » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:04 am

Thanks for the info on the pto and serial number.

This is the dash.

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The manuals are 350B and this is the dozer.

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Post by jthornton » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:13 am

Now I'm considering asking for my money back as I've not moved it from the sellers property. I paid $6700 for it with the assumption that it is a 350B not a straight 350. I can get Case 450C's for $10,000 around here.

What do you guys think?

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Post by jsal » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:13 am

I have the same machine definitely 350 not B Lavoy says only difference is location of reverser lever have you ran it make sure it steers well steering clutch replacement is a big job and expense

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Post by jthornton » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:37 am

I've ran it and the right steering clutch has been replaced a few years ago and it is out of adjustment. In fact I had to get it roughly into adjustment to make it go right. I'm somewhat disappointed that it is a 1965 machine and not a 1970-1975 machine that I was lead to believe by the sticker and manuals.

Just don't know what to think at this point...

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Post by jthornton » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:38 pm

Ok I brought it home today. One thing I noticed is someone has welded 1/2" x 1" tall bars on the cleats. That really tears up things, is there any reason I should not cut them off and restore the cleats to the original height?

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Post by jtrichard » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:36 pm

they welded new grousers on because the original ones where wore down so far that it would not push much how tall are they now? pic? a dozer will tear the ground up pretty good that's one reason the use 3 bar street type pads on loaders all the turning that they do
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Post by jthornton » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:43 pm

The overall height is 1 1/4".

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They kinda bent up my buddies ramps when we loaded it up to move the crawler home today.

How tall is stock?

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Post by jtrichard » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:49 pm

about 1 1/2" i know the weld on grouser bar stock i used was 1" tall and intended to weld on top of what is left on the wore grousers and yes they can tear up the ramps the height looks about right
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Post by jthornton » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:57 pm

Thanks for the info on the grousers, I didn't have a clue. I'll repair the missing bits from a few that got knocked off.

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Post by original possum » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:27 pm

My 350B is for real but it has the reverser on the dash, just like yours. The only noticeable difference between it and the old (sold) 350 is that it shuts off with the keyswitch instead of the throttle.
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Post by Scottyb » Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:08 am

My 350b has power assisted steering. Rams under the seat operate off of a pump and reservoir on the engine when the steering levers are pulled. . My 350 does not have this feature.
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Post by Lavoy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:37 pm

Power steering was an option on straights and B's. My straight had it, my brother's B has it. Early ones used a separate pump and reservoir, later it was integrated into the crawler hyd system.
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